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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's simple math,  30,000 HS in the US, 20,000 ivy seats, so even if only the val's are considered there are still 1/3 rejected.

Add in all the sal's, athletes, and other types of applicants and you realize even as the top student at your HS, admission to a top 20 school is incredibly good fortune (assuming you want that).

There is no shame in a top student not getting admitted, no flaw in application, nothing other than bad luck of a sort (even though painful).

Top students who have been rejected are still top students, with much to be proud of, and as every study shows, highly likely to remain successful in life regardless of their alma mater!

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My kid was very disappointed in not getting into HYPSM. I tried to foam the runways, but there was no way to prevent the profound disappointment. The kids from my kid's high school who got into HYPSM are all minorities with excellent stats, ECs. Sorry if that sounds racist, it's just a fact, like it or not. DC is going to a terrific school, not as elite as desired, but that's life. DC's older sibling went to a HYPSM college, and DC has even better grades, etc. than older DC. BUT older DC is 10 years older, and that decade really changed things in college admissions. [/quote]

What school? I'm curious what you think of as "not as elite."  Why group HYPSM in terms of admissions? They are very different schools. Kids should apply for the best fit which may include some or all of these, but it sound like it's just about prestige, and that really isn't what a college education is about. Mine got into Brown, and we are thrilled. I won't lie and say I don't care if it's an Ivy -- she is the first in the family to go to an Ivy league school. (Though it isn't HYPSM, so maybe "not elite enough"). But, she chose it for it's campus academically curious and collaborative community, open curriculum and great teaching. She did not apply to Harvard because that did not appeal (competitive vibe and snobbery from friends who  went there). I don't understand why people lump all these schools together.[/quote]

Because they are the top 5 schools and most prestigious.

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Either you didn't read my post or just didn't comprehend the thoughts in it.[/quote]

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