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[quote=RantingAtheist][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingAtheist]Okay, back up for a second. I'm not sure I know what you mean by "the new york bill specifically spelled out that religious institutions did not have to recognize married gay couples."

You realize that churches are not currently required to "marry" heterosexual couples right now, today, right? You can test this out: take some random opposite-sex person you're acquainted with and take them to your local Catholic church, Jewish synagogue, or Islamic mosque, and tell them you want to get married.

Or am I just not following you?[/quote]

im basically saying that institutions in new york arent forced to apply the law in some form or fashion. not sure of all the details but recall that was the hang up. if you looked at the NY bill and the MD bill last year, it was a college term paper versus a third grade book report.

and your last point is something ive already "tested" out. my church wouldnt marry my wife and i (she isnt catholic) until we went through some one on one's and only at that time did the priest "bless" our union. thats the most he did since we didnt marry in the church. thats besides the point on me.

im trying to say that you a right a church or other place doesnt just up and marry you without going through something and if im not mistaken, they wouldnt need to "accept" a homosexual couple unless you can correct me. im not here to say im 100% right here[/quote]

No, that's my understanding as well. That's why the claim that churches are afraid "the state will force us to gay marry against our will" seems so strained. Churches pretty much get to decide who they're going to perform ceremonies for. [/quote]

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