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[quote=RantingAtheist][quote=Anonymous]15:23 I agree it hasnt yet.

However, I would say that in the last 10 years where I have off and on attended church, enough to make this statement, I have never heard the priests spend so many sermons talking about political issues. When I was younger, youd get something every blue moon but its more common now as if the church is threatened by whatever government may impose on them.

From abortion, contraceptives, to gay marriage, the church to me seems worried that they will have to "support" the laws of the land on these issues and I can see their side of their argument. [/quote]

I'm not sure this is such a new thing. One of the core components of social conservatives is that they feel like they're under assault by the larger culture. It's what motivates them. A hundred years ago it was women wanting to vote. Then legalizing contraception. Then the government wanting to force churches to let black people marry white people. And now, as you say, we're at the point where the government wants to force churches to marry same-sex couples. Granted, there's no evidence of this, but what are you going to do? Reactionaries are going to be frightened of social change. It always was, and always will be. Obviously, this is a sub-set of "the church" given that the majority of Catholics disagree with the explicitly political stances that the far-right subset of the Catholic "leadership".

Anyway, the politicization of some subset of catholic churches is just an echo of the politicization of some protestant churches that happened in the 70s and 80s.[/quote]

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