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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think we should do the opposite. Discourage car use. I am serious. [/quote]

100% agree 
-- bike commuter[/quote]

As if everyone can ride a bike, lol.[/quote]

Most people can[/quote]

Sure, most people can ride a bike, but that doesn't mean a bike is the preferred means of transportation for most people, especially those with families who often have to make multi-stop errands.[/quote]
Most of the bicycle people don’t have young kids, know people with disabilities, etc. They don’t envisage that there are people that have very different transportation needs than they do. [/quote]

People in the Netherlands bike with young kids all the time.[/quote]

People in th US do to, but not with 4 kids and all their hockey equipment, or the child's expensive double bass, or lugging thier child's wheelchair which they'll need at their destination, etc etc. etc.[/quote]

Ah good point. If everyone can’t use alternative transport in every single situation then we should not offer any alternative transportation at all. I can walk my kids the theee blocks to school but because their teacher lives in the suburbs and drives there shouldn’t be any sidewalks at all. And I can bike my kid in a cargo bike five miles away but I shouldn’t buy a cargo bike because he might have hockey practice at soem point in the future. [/quote]
Do you understand that you are proposing exactly the opposite for which you are criticizing? Have some self-awareness. [/quote]

Yes, I was being sarcastic.  I am sick of the argument that because someone might need to use a wheelchair or someone might need to lug hockey equipment or someone might need to move a couch once a year then that means that people who advocate for cycling, transit and walking infrastructure are out of touch or that such infrastructure should not exist.  There are many. many trips that do not require cars.  We don't have to get the number of trips requiring cars to zero in order to have infrastructure for other users.

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I think you’ve missed the point. The point is that you lack an understanding that there are also other users and transportation needs that don’t include bicycles. The idea of prioritizing bicycles over other uses makes as little sense as prioritizing cars over sidewalks.

Providing options for safe bicycle infrastructure is important. Prioritizing bicycles without an otherwise strong use case for the direct purpose to make it difficult for people who need to use vehicles is bad policy.

Multi-modal transportation options are good. Trying to use transportation infrastructure to fulfill what seems like personal vendettas against other types of road users is in fact bad. [/quote]

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