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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not to rain on everyone’s parade here, but some other pretty reputable scientists have torn apart this #urgencyofnormal toolkit, even pointing out what seem like either purposeful or negligent misstatements of studies/facts. https://mobile.twitter.com/tylerblack32/status/1486111652076527623 For a compilation of the issues: https://mobile.twitter.com/RMCarpiano/status/1486307145112961026 Re equity: https://mobile.twitter.com/Lakshmi_RKG/status/1486195421156368388 One more from someone who hasn’t really been of them doom and gloom side: https://mobile.twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1486319939837259778?cxt=HHwWhMCjyYiHvKApAAAA She suggests this toolkit should be ignored. [/quote] Tyler Black is also an attention-seeking, hyperbolic twitter persona with some sort of agenda (I don't know what, but he seems to need to put things like "hospital associations" in scare quotes), so probably shouldn't be casting around aspersions of attention-seeking. And let's look at the critique that he is blasting as an "outright lie." The UoN slide said 2400 suicides, and was corrected to 2200 suicides. Obviously, a sign of a conspiracy and not a typo (which, notably was corrected). Also he wants to review slides on twitter -- dude just WRITE IN A PEER REVIEWED JOURNAL. He does all of this, instead, on twitter, so it just seems like he's not serious. [/quote] And McBride is not attention seeking? Has she published anything relevant in a peer reviewed journal? There may be problems with the tone of Black’s tweets, but he actually is expert in child mental health. Why would someone like that have an agenda to minimize child mental health issues? And Rasmussen isn’t eloquent, but she is a virologist and not one of the ones who have been constant “world is on fire.” So, gives me pause when people like this are suggesting the McBride thing is a bad idea.[/quote] But this isn't JUST Lucy McBride (also, note that Tyler Black just calls her "Lucy", not "Dr. McBride" -- gross). There's a team that put together the toolkit. Are they all just attention-seeking media whores? And what's THEIR purpose? You think it's to kill kids? Is Lucy McBride trying to fashion herself into a public persona? Idk. I'm not on twitter, where most of this stuff seems to happen. So maybe. But Tyler Black shouldn't be accusing anyone of attention-seeking. What's Tyler Black's goal? Honestly, he seems like a disgruntled academic that has lost the forest for the trees. The nitpicking (2200 versus 2400) with the claim that he's driven a hole through the conclusion is really "on brand" for such a type. I unfortunately have know many such people in my life. The problems with his conclusions are glaringly obvious, yet he can't seem to address them (e.g., suicides v. suicide attempts, access to hospitals during lockdown).[/quote]
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