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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]LOL how is this equity when title I school kids can get in with lower scores and higher SES schools require a higher Cogat score? Equity means equitable across the board right, not giving an unfair advantage to title I school students. 
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Yeah, but the AAP center or LLIV program they get into won't be as strong.  My kids attended a center program that is fed into by several Title I schools.  There was a lot of remediation within AAP and no differentiation upward.  It was very underwhelming.  The high SES centers are the ones that have strong AAP programs.  Similarly, the high SES middle schools are the ones that have Algebra II Honors or have the super special advanced Geometry class that is only taught at Longfellow.

Logistically, it does make sense to use building norms.  At the high SES schools, kids who are below grade level are few and far between.  Gen ed teachers should have no problem differentiating for on and above grade level groups, and advanced kids could have their needs met in gen ed.  At the title I schools, half of the kids in the classroom are below grade level.  The teacher barely has time to meet with the average, on-grade level kids, and will never have time for kids who are above grade level.  Above average kids won't be able to have their needs met in a gen ed Title I classroom.    [/quote]

And keep in mind the VDOE definition of "gifted" that FCPS quotes here: [url][u]https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/C7TSU8744C3E/$file/2021%20Oct%20-%20local%20norm%20expansion%20briefing.pdf[/u][/url]

[i]"...students who demonstrate high levels of accomplishment or who show the potential for higher levels of accomplishment [b]when compared to others of the same age, experience, or environment"[/b].[/i]

Given that definition, kids in Title I schools shouldn't be compared to kids from high SES schools because the school environments (and probably home as well) are quite different.  The high SES kids have more advantages.
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I don't think anyone is against lower the pool number if need be for a specific school, what people are against is raising it in other schools.[/quote]

Agreed. And if they are going to make different rules for different people, they should at least spell them out clearly.[/quote]

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