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[quote=BlueFredneck]You'd think the myth that there's this hidden group of folks who'd only vote if someone sufficiently progressive enough ran would've been squashed in MD-Gov 2018. Or 2020, in which Republicans STILL gained seats in the House and held the Senate.

It's not just saying White people suck. It's also saying White people have always sucked and that there's nothing that can be done about it. Again, this may not be the precise message they're intending to send - but it gets received as such. Any disagreement? Oh, you're just having White Fragility. Examine your privilege some more.

You've got White Americans, who watched the Cosby Show in the 1980s, and elected Obama in the 2000s, being told their nation is irrevocably racist. Can you fault them for being at least a little confused, if not angry?

If we need to hear out the legitimate grievances of Black people for whom the promise of America is imperfectly realized, it makes sense to lend a non-condescending ear to the legitimate grievances of White people for whom the promise of America is imperfectly realized. But at the same time, pretending it's 1952 with regards to race relations - how is that helping?

It may not be actual Democratic *leaders* (outside of the Squad) saying these things, but more likely the wider Democratic "blob" (basically Salon/HuffPost/other LW media, LW Twitter folks, and the such.

Republicans helped Dems a with 1/6, but not enough to still keep winning. Maybe the 1/6 rioters canceled out the long hot summer of 2020 and the damage they did Dems.

I had plenty of otherwise liberal, otherwise non-criminal friends on my FB feed excusing the post-Floyd riots. But it wasn't their homes and businesses getting smashed by the rioters - what turns out to have been regular criminals, far-right agitators, and far-left folks who'd been destroying stuff since 1999. Of course you had plenty of right-wingers who were quick to equalize suburban moms protesting police malfeasance with Chavistas and the KKK. [/quote]

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