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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] The fewer objective measurements, the more opaque cherry-picking they can do. And in the near future, you'll wonder why they have way fewer Asian students graduates... [/quote] It’s not objective. You can game the test, pay for test tutoring and increase scores. The only proven correlation between SATs and ACTs is income. [/quote] That isn’t true, the UC system itself recently produced research showing high correlation between SAT scores and performance in college. It’s more predictive than high school grades. Hi [/quote] link?[/quote] Halfway through the bullet points— “without controlling for demographics,” SAT/ACT score are a better predictor of college grades than high school gpa. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/sat-act-study-report.pdf[/quote] but like...demographics exist? [/quote] Maybe actually read the report? They also concluded that adding sat/act to high school gpa materially improved ability to predict college performance.[/quote] Without controlling for student demographics, SAT/ACT scores are a stronger predictor of freshman GPA when compared to HSGPA, but have almost the same explanatory power of graduation GPA, first year retention and graduation. After controlling for student demographics, HSGPA and test scores have the same explanatory power of the freshman GPA for 2015, the latest year included in this study, but HSGPA is a stronger predictor of the first year retention, graduation GPA and four-year graduation.[/quote] Right, so the goal isn’t to admit the most qualified students who will perform the best in college, just admit a cohort that will make it to graduation. This is the frustration with wokeness in public education. And you choosing to ignore the fact that the study found gpa plus sat best predictor of college performance.[/quote] [b]HSGPA is a stronger prediction of graduation GPA. [/b]--I guess you missed that?[/quote]
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