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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sorry, I wasn’t clear.  He is looking at schools where a 34 is mid range (33-35).  So a 34 is right in the middle.  So that would be a situation where score should not hurt (but probably also not help).  Am I thinking about that correctly?

Thanks.[/quote]

Oh I get it now. Yes, a 34 shouldn't hurt his chances anywhere. Those top schools (top 30 or so) admission is less stats driven so unless he brings other factors/hooks, good stats are really nonevermind kinda thing... [/quote]

Thank you.  That is what I hoping I guess- that I 34 would be worth submitting to get the app in the pile to be considered, so to speak.[/quote]

Have a close relative who has worked in admissions at two select schools - nearly verbatim: "35/36 goes in one pile and 34 goes in another." It's a great score, but it doesn't get in that pile.[/quote]

Well, duh. But 33 goes into another pile, and 32 and below in another…. See how that works? [/quote]

Sounds like you're good at sorting.

Relative said it because 34 is great score...but it is not a 35/36, so no need to get out over your skis.

I really have no idea why OP would think DC might consider test optional with that score. If the kid is coming from an aflluent school district/family, admissions will probably assume the ACT is 24 not 34 if the applicant goes test optional.[/quote]

Duh. Exactly. Sorting is not decisive. You’re the one who implied that not having a 35/36 is determinative. [/quote]

No, I didn't nor did my relative. I simply relayed that the relative said it goes into a different pile.[/quote]

Meaning, what, exactly? [/quote]

If someone is on the fence, then 35/36 may weigh more strongly in their favor than 34. 
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Such BS[/quo

DP -apparently you don’t want to hear this but there is a very big leap from 34 to 35/36. And yes colleges know this because they want those stats to report to USNWR and other ranking services. That why when you get to that level, the mid-tier SLACs who want to buy those scores will call your kid unsolicited and offer $24k- $30 scholarships. My DS got three of those calls. I picked up on if then snd and they offered a $24k scholarship for DC’s 34 but whe I said he had retaken I heard papers rustle and the she aid @[b]oh then we can offer him our President’s scholarship of $3Ok [/b]so, yes, schools most definitely out there 35 and 36 in a “different oike@. I could relate for info but since you just want to keep saying “BS” you clearly don’t  want to learn.[/quote]

God, this is so, so, so idiotic!!!!

These must be mid-tier colleges that are offering $5K more merit money to kids who get a 35/36 on the ACT vs someone with a 34. A 34 is in the 99th percentile. It means exactly nothing IMHO except that the kid is pretty good at taking tests and knows something about a bunch of subjects taught in high school. Why is that extra point worth $5K?

This is why truly elite colleges do not offer merit scholarships. These idiotic tests (which are all about making $$ for these "non-profit" testing companies) are a measure of so little when it comes to a child's talents. High scores often correlate with intellectual ability, but not always. The moron who was the valedictorian in my kid's class got a very high test score. She can't think or reason or analyze, but she's very good at memorizing and taking tests. [/quote]

All true. The system is broke. But the reason the mud and lower tier SLACs will get these scholarships is because they can record those scores to USNWR, thereby hoping to move up the rankings. This more high stats kids they have, the more elite the college appears. So these schools actively buy the stats that will push them up on rankings. The more elite schools don’t have to do this because they can hit all USNWR categories with the applicant class they receive.[/quote]

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