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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh, for goodness' sake.

This is OP. I tried to ignore this thread after it became clear it had devolved into the DCUM usual.

The PP who is "99% sure" they know this school is incorrect, because we do NOT have ELC.

I take the point about removing Black/Latine kids if white and Asian parents make a "pact"-- not the ideal term and I'm well aware it's not legally binding!-- but the families I'm thinking of are racially diverse, too. Not just white and Asian American.

That said, it absolutely does NOT follow that all of the people who don't pull themselves from the pool would automatically get in, because others have pulled themselves. That's not how this works. Unless you think it's better simply to have fewer white and Asian American kids, in order to maintain a smaller disparity? Oh, yes, very healthy.

In any event, a big part of my point is that VERY VERY VERY smart Black and Latine kids are typically overlooked when it comes to CES anyway.

The people speculating on my not knowing who fits into this cohort-- like I don't know the lower-income kids who would 1 million percent fit into it--like I said a thousand times!-- are way off. And anyone, in any way, thinking I'm trying to create some sort of Elite Pact Group... your reading comprehension stinks.

"how do you determine who should be in your group? Top 3% of the school? Top 5% of the school? What makes you think that the other parents will agree to your categorization of who is worth to be in your "group"?"

WTH are you even talking about? I was never suggesting any such thing. I was simply saying I know more than a couple of other families whose kids are CLEARLY in the "top 15%" HALF OF WHICH ARE BLACK AND LATINE STUDENTS and would prefer to stay at our school, and that having some consensus among those few families might be a mere start if they generally agree (not legally binding!) that they would stay as long as their kids educational needs could be met.

Maybe they'll be met just fine!

But, again-- too many people are reading this as some sort of elitism, when it is quite the opposite.

The goal is to keep the school's top 15% largely in the school, and not to drastically change its demographics.

Please explain to me how this is elitist.

Ugh-- no, don't. I've used up all my exclamation points!!!! for the rest of the calendar year.

Has everyone missed that my kid is a POC?

Sorry you can't imagine a person making a request of a school who is NOT trying to advantage their already privileged kid at the expense of other kids-- in fact, largely making the request to benefit other kids.

Peace out.[/quote]

OP, principals will be quite reassuring because they like keeping bright kids at their school for higher test scores and easy student counts that don’t require a lot of teacher resources. You will never get the same level of enrichment as you would at a CES and anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is ignorant or lying. Case in point, lots of people feel that the math curriculum is the same and that the CES is just about ELA enrichment. It reality, it isn’t. Because the kids are so bright, they get through the math curriculum a lot faster and get to do extra projects. They get a lot more science - some programs offer it almost every day, as opposed to regular elementary. The ELA is far and beyond the few hours of enrichment a week you MIGHT get at your home school. For these reasons, it is inappropriate to approach other parents and ask them to discuss whether they would keep their kids out of the pool. It is a major opportunity and a very private family decision. Your best path forward is to advocate for as much enrichment as you can at your home school and leave CES decisions out of it. You can see how happy your DD is with even some enrichment available: many very bright kids just need to have enough to feel they aren’t being ignored by their school in order to feel happy and engaged in ES, and if kids/families are happy, they’ll stay. No one loves to uproot their kid like that. Parents of the unhappiest kids tend to be very quiet about how frustrated their child might be because they are afraid to sound like they are bragging: they are likely dealing with tears of rage every night and will send their kid to CES if they get the chance, no matter what you do. There really is an excellent chance that you don’t have any idea who they are.

I want to add that our CES is mostly POC. I wish the county would offer more CES slots, since the availability is clearly far less than the need.[/quote]

This sounds like a plan to get other parents to drop out to improve their kid's chances at CES admission.[/quote]

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