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Refueling takes 5 minutes. And we can actually make it 500 miles on a full tank, although we usually have to stop once to go to the bathroom. A 200 mile range means 2 recharging stops, and normally we don't stop for more than 10-15 minutes total in a trip.[/quote]

I call BS on your 500 mile trip with one bathroom break. This is like driving from DC to Maine! Unbelievable how you lie just to score a cheap point. So, if you have your family with you (since you said 'we'), do you synchronize your bathroom breaks, or you need to wear adult diapers if you miss your break? You don't eat, not even a coffee, you make sure everyone took a crap before leaving home?

Even if you do stop, how many of these 500 mile trips do you take once a year? More than one? Sane people would just book a flight, instead of wasting a vacation day on the road, but no, you want to drive for 8 hours straight and wasting 20 minutes on charging is unacceptable.

For the people that can't stand a 20 minute charge every 250 miles (that's a break about every 3.5 hours), you are being ridiculous and that almost never happens.

If you dont want to buy an electric car, thats your right, but your argument on why is absolutely bonkers.

From an owner of an electric car for several years, charging time is a non-issue with the infrastructure that exists today.
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It's DC to MA. And yes, I often do it with one stop. I just want to get there and not waste time. In the last 1.5 years I have done the drive 6 times and doing it again this fall. We go for anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months and need a car while we are there. We haven't purchased a third car to leave at the beach because that actually seems more wasteful - buying an extra car, the flights, the trip from the airport to the house (90 miles). Plus its more expensive. But you tell me - maybe I'm wrong and having an electric car would offset the environmental impact of the extra travel and an extra car.

As I said we do plan to get an EV for our second car when that needs to be replaced (we keep our cars 10+ years so can't jump on trends as quickly as those of you swapping out every 3-4 years). I don't object to EVs, but I want to keep a gas car for long trips until the technology/infrastructure improves.[/quote]

We just got an electric car this year that we plan to keep for at least the life of its eight-year battery warranty; up to now, we've had one car, a gas car we still keep as our second car, which is just a few months shy of ten years old. So I'm completely with you on the question of keeping cars a long time.

But I think you're overestimating the inconvenience factor involved in a trip it sounds like you make only 2 or 3 times a year. A Better Route Planner, a useful site for planning EV road trips, says you'd stop twice, for a total of an hour, between D.C. and Nantucket (which I used as a generic stand-in for "beach in Massachusetts"), if you were driving an electric VW, Ford Mach-E, Porsche, or Audi that could charge for free at the Electrify America stations -- once for 22 minutes at a Walmart in South Jersey, and once for 47 minutes at a shopping mall in Stratford, CT, where you could probably get some food/use bathroom/whatever. You could probably install a level 2 charging station at your beach house, so you'd have no trouble charging once you are there. You wouldn't have to pay for any gas to or from the beach house, since you'd be using free fast-charging for the first three years; your auto maintenance and fuel costs in general would go way down; and as a green bonus, you'd have no direct emissions from using the electric car. To me, all that is easily be worth adding a total of 45 to 55 minutes (since you say you already stop for 10 to 15 minutes) to your trips -- especially since the charging logistics now are guaranteed to be the MOST complicated they'll ever be, as more charging options are built out and as cars get updated over the air for faster rapid charging. [/quote]

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