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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Cal State Long Beach is ranked ahead of Harvey Mudd? Nope.[/quote]

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Harvey Mudd has been sliding even with USNews. They used to be T10 in liberal arts - some 10 or more years ago. It’s now in mid-20 with other run-of-the mill above-average liberal arts schools. [/quote]
Harvey Mudd, the engineering, math, and science school, used to be top 10 in...liberal arts? Pretty impressive since they don't offer majors in English, History, Philosophy, Sociology, Languages, Economics, Political Science, Music...

https://www.hmc.edu/academics/majors-at-harvey-mudd/

Also, your comment has nothing to do with Long Beach State being ranked ahead of Harvey Mudd.[/quote]

I didn’t see where cal state Long Beach is ranked. You can’t compare Mudd with CalState Long Beach. You have to compare with STEM focused schools. And the Cal State system has its maritime academy that is just below Stanford - and ahead of Mudd and CalTech. And to think the cal State system has no pretension of educating the elites of the nation makes it all the more remarkable. It serves primarily blue collar residents of the state. It’s for Caltech, Mudd, UCBerkeley, UCLA, UC riverside rejects. [/quote]

But it sounds like the CalState and CalPoly kids may be getting the last laugh. They are getting a quality education at rock bottom prices with minimal student loans and then going on to well-paying professional careers. They probably won't work at Goldman Sachs, but then again the vast majority of Ivy League kids paying $70K per year never go into banking and make that huge money.

I'm from Long Beach. CalState LB graduates a lot of CPAs who make really good money 10 years out of school. And they paid peanuts for their degree.[/quote]
Looking at the Forbes data, the early career salary for Harvey Mudd is $162,500. For Long Beach State, it's $104,200. That $58k difference year after year adds up.[/quote]

Cal state Long Beach is not a STEM focused school. Even Pomona college would trail Mudd. So compare MUdd with Cal State’s vocational school - its Maritime Academy - and you see its 10-yr ROI is significantly higher than Mudd at $265,000. Its 15-yr ROI is $592.000 - blowing Mudd out of water. Only by year 40 does Mudd catch up with Cal State. But by that time, Cal State alum will have retired from all the money that rolled in during the earlier years. [/quote]

Love it....spouse and I are CSULB grads, we're doing great, house on the water, boat and all that goes with it.  Glad to see it on some sort of list but then again what really matters is hard work and dedication.  Go 49ers, Fullerton sucks![/quote]

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