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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was at my doctor the other day and asked about marijuana. He says that now that’s it’s cultural acceptable to use (pretty much as often and as much as you want), he and his colleagues are starting to see a lot of health problems associated with use. It’s really not the miracle substance everyone thinks it is, and is has just as many risks as any other drug. Not harmless at all and we’ll probably see more and more health problems as use continues to climb. [/quote]

Curious what health problems they see that they know are attributable to pot. Did he say?[/quote]

Specifically we were talking about mental illness, as I’m pregnant and schizophrenia runs in H’s family. H uses daily and OB was very concerned, as exposure to even second or third hand marijuana smoke can trigger the development of schizophrenia.

On a side note, OB thinks H should absolutely quit. I’m pretty sure H won’t, which is very frustrating for me. [/quote]

This must be a joke. What is "third hand marijuana smoke"? I am chuckling thinking about that. And I would venture that there is zero evidence, let alone reliable studies, showing that second hand marijuana smoke can trigger the development of schizophrenia. If your OB really said this, I would be much more concerned about having an idiot for an OB than about second hand marijuana smoke. Lol.[/quote]

Third hand smoke is the smoke on your clothes, in your hair, that sticks to the environment, etc.

There are numerous studies showing that marijuana use during childhood, adolescence, and early adulthood can trigger schizophrenia in people with the genes for it. However, there is no way to ethically conduct a study on how much exposure is a risk, since it would involve intentionally exposing children, and that would never be approved. So instead we have to infer based on the evidence we do have. We do also know that second and third hand cigarette smoke pose a danger to children.

It’s similar to why things such as Botox and alcohol are not recommended during pregnancy - we can’t conduct the studies ethically to determine a safe dose. I love my Botox, and it’s probably fine while pregnant, but the risks outweighs the benefits. Now, if a woman had severe migraines and couldn’t function without Botox injections, then the benefits are worth the risks.

So in regards to marijuana, if someone had a serious issue such as cancer and had explored all other pain management options, then the benefits outweighs the risks. But for recreational use, the risks outweigh the benefits.

FWIW, I asked multiple men I know who are legit potheads what they thought, and every single one said they would give it up if there was even a chance it could impact their child’s health.

Unfortunately I think responses like PP’s show that weed is far more addictive than we’ve been lead on to believe. I have a friend who is a former addict (or many drugs, not just weed) and when I spoke to him, he said “any rational person would give up whatever they had to for their kid, even if it was something ridiculous like broccoli or yoga. But with drugs, the user can’t think logically and dismisses any and all evidence, and comes up with a million excuses why it’s okay. Pot is especially bad because it has a reputation for being medicinal, when very rarely is it used for that purpose”.

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Comparing the amounts of smoke from pot to cigarettes is crazy. Certainly, if your DH is chain smoking joints then maybe that amount of smoke or residue is going to be harmful. But edibles are obviously not relevant, and my guess is that the occasional puff would not even come close.

The idea that someone should have to give up something "if there was even a chance it could impact their child's health" is irrational to the extreme (and I'm not surprised that a "legit pothead" would say something like that. There are likely 1000 things around your house that pose far more of a danger to your unborn than the residue from an occasional puff of marijuana smoke, not to mention out in the world. The idea that a doctor would suggest otherwise makes me question the rational thinking of that doctor.[/quote]

The problem is, it’s not the occasional puff, it’s daily. And this is a child that has a very high chance of being pre-disposed to developing schizophrenia. It’s not a typical situation.

In a similar vein, H has recognized he has trouble when it comes to alcohol, so I refrain from drinking around him as it’s a trigger, even though I love a glass of wine at night. So I don’t think I’m being unreasonable. Sometimes you give things up for the good of the people you love. [/quote]

First, the concept of third hand smoke is relatively new and there is zero evidence that it causes any ill health effects even where there is a lot of cigarette smoke. I seriously doubt that even a daily smoker of pot is producing more than a tiny fraction of the amount of smoke of a regular cigarette smoker. Also, a "very high change of being pre-disposed to developing schizophrenia" is still a low chance of developing it, and there is zero evidence that a tiny amount of pot smoke residue (if any) will exacerbate that.

And to compare it to your avoiding wine is absurd when you acknowledge that there is actual causal relationship between your drinking wine and his proclivity to drink and experience negative consequences as a result. There is not such causal relationship between even daily pot use and schizophrenia in children.

You do what you want, but please don't try to pass it off as rational. It is basically at the level of superstition, and if you are fine controlling the otherwise innocuous behavior of people on that basis, then you do that.

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