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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most elite frat sounds awful.  It needs better PR.[/quote]

Sounds awful to whom?  When an Alpha Delt or Saint A’s member happens to be interviewing with an Alpha Delt or St. A’s alumnus, it’s a BIG help. This is not so much the case with fraternities like FIJI or Beta Theta Pi which seem to have chapters at every college. Also, many fraternities, such as Beta Theta Pi, have been closed by their colleges because pledges have died from alcohol poisoning or molestation of women at parties. These things just don’t happen at Alpha Delta Phi or St A’s. Parties at these frats (both of which are devoted to literary criticism), tend to be cocktail parties, black tie balls and high teas. [/quote]

When I was at Columbia St A’s had a reputation for serious drug use and cavalier treatment towards women.  I think you’re over-invested in the fraternity scene and its importance at these particular schools - actually wonder if you might not be a Penn grad trying to be part of a dialogue that isn’t really about you. [/quote]

I never even saw any drugs at all at St. A’s at Columbia. There was marijuana at Alpha Delta Phi at Columbia but never anything harder. It seems odd to say that St. A’s had a cavalier attitude towards women because St. A’s was the first fraternity to coeducate at Columbia. Columbia’s chapter of St. A’s adamantly refused to engage in any programs with St. A’s chapters that were not coed. [/quote]

St. A’s was also the first non Black fraternity at Columbia to accept Blacks. [/quote]

So what?  There has been plenty of drug use and mistreatment of women by Black fraternity members. [/quote]

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