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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'll answer here to the best of my ability. Pp who actually grew up with no movies or secular books and is annoyed and slightly amused by Julia (we knew her as Talia Leibov)[/quote]

I am curious how someone who claims to know this woman happened to be on DCUM and land in this thread. [/quote]
Different Orthodox poster. This show is the is the subject of many threads in Jewish groups and forums, including Orthodox ones.[/quote]
PP. I'll call myself OJ2. My husband and I are Modern Orthodox, but my children attend a school that I would describe as open-minded ultra-Orthodox. I have no connection to Monsey or Julia.[/quote]

Welcome OJ2. I've always wondering how you would view people like Julia's daughter, who is not following all the rules but considers herself somewhat religious. Apologies for not fully understanding but I grew up in a very religious Christian household and in my community, people who were not "Christian" in the same way were looked down on and not seen as "truly" Christian. Would it be the same for Julia's daughter since she isn't full immersed in the culture anymore?[/quote]
In terms of her religious status, she would still be viewed as a Jew by the entire spectrum of Orthodoxy, no matter how she lives. Once someone has become a Jew, either by birth or valid conversion, they can never become a non-Jew. The validity of a conversion may be challenged later on, but only on the basis of events that occurred prior to or during the conversion.

As to whether she would be considered an Orthodox or "frum" Jew would vary over the Orthodox spectrum. Modern Orthodoxy (MO) as a movement believes in modest dress, but as a practical matter, the Modern Orthodox community does not typically eject people socially or mark them as non-Orthodox because they ignore the rules of modest dress in part or in full. Some people don't keep the mainstream dress standards because they just don't feel like it, others do so deliberately because they interpret the laws in a more liberal manner, relying on minority opinions or creative reasoning. There are a number of families in my Modern Orthodox community, including mine, who do not keep the mainstream halachic MO standards of modesty, but I still consider us Orthodox.

I didn't get a clear picture from the show on where Batsheva stands in regards to keeping kosher and Shabbat, but if she flouts those rules publicly, then I would not eat home-cooked food from her home. But we could still be friends and hang out otherwise.  I wouldn't see her as Orthodox, but I would appreciate that she is observing Judaism in her own ways, which I see as much better than abandoning it entirely. My husband and I have many non-Orthodox Jewish and non-Jewish friends and family members.[/quote]

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