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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In Italy the women don't have children because they know the men will do nothing to help raise the children and will cheat on them.[/quote]

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Therein lies the selfishness, which I firmly believe lies more with the men than the women.

Since contraception and abortion severed sex and procreation, men have been granted more license to give into their most base selfish desires.  Plenty of cultures have deeply ingrained machismo, where men can unfairly leave all things childbearing to women.  Now sex can be indulged in without the fear of fathering a child...and when contraception fails, well, there is abortion...and if a woman chooses to keep the child, well, that's her choice, but she can't expect him to help.

So women are supposedly constantly sexually available, but they also must be financially independent and must not expect men to share any family/childcare responsibilities??  No wonder women find this man-child model to be disgusting!  As for men, what incentive do they have to change?  There will always be some women out there who are willing to offer responsibility-free sex (except in countries with female shortages due to sex-selection abortion, but we're talking about Europe right now).

These consequences of contraception were forecast when it became widely available:

--A general lowering of morality in society 
--A general disregard for the physical and psychological health of women by men
--Coercive use of "family planning" by governments and societies
--Dehumanization of persons

Not only have all these predictions come true, but worldwide fertility rates have plummeted to a degree no one ever imagined, with consequences never before seen in human history.

At current rates, European population will be halved by 2050.  But it's not the overall population decline that is the main problem.  It is the composition of the population.  We're talking about societies with no siblings, no cousins, no aunts and uncles.  We're talking about no one 14 and under, and most people 65 and older.  One worker to every 3, 4, 5 dependents--but the dependents will be old, not young.

And it goes back to selfishness.[/quote]

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