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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course they can change admissions but the way they did it — secretively at first, statements against Asian American students my multiple decision makers, with no proper process, notice or public hearing— is not okay.[/quote]
Who made statements against Asian American students, and what did they say?[/quote]
They just want to play victim. [/quote]

These are people who fundamentally believe....

....that an admissions process that admits 54% Asians and 20% Black and Latino students....

....is MORE racist than a process that admits 73% Asians and 3% Black and Latino students.

They believe themselves to be better, pure and simple. They genuinely believe that as a class of people, they work harder, care more about education, and just fundamentally are smarter to such a degree that they should have more Asian students in ONE ADMITTED CLASS than TJ has had Black students in its ENTIRE 35-year history.

That is called Asian supremacy.[/quote]

The new system was designed for a more even spread, and it accomplished that goal.  Nobody's disputing that it looks less racist on paper.

Still, that doesn't mean it's not racist.  Imagine that you have a jar of cookies, and you set up a competition where everyone gets a certain fraction of the cookies based on how they perform.  One particular kid is an outsider, so the other kids don't like them very much.  They're confident in themselves, though, so after putting forth a remarkable effort, they manage to earn themselves a majority of the cookies. The other kids realize that the unpopular kid is winning the most, so they all say, "hey, let's just share the cookies evenly!"  Technically fair, but at the same time totally not.[/quote]

Your analogy only makes sense if you subscribe to the belief that Asians work harder and are therefore more deserving. [i]Which is the literal definition of Asian supremacy in this case.[/i]

Unless you know the starting points of everyone else in the sample, you cannot use their current position to measure their level of effort.[/quote]

The problem with this follow-up is that it doesn't even make a valid point.  In context, the cookie-jar competition has been taking place for ages.  Usually, a different kid gets the most cookies, and our protagonist has just now started coming out on top.  As is the nature of any competition, this could very well change again in the future.  The point is, this is our protagonist's moment in the sun, and also precisely the moment that everyone else decided to change up the rules.

Note that the analogy has no functional dependency on a belief in inherent supremacy.  In no normal conversation would someone confuse a current, numerically-objective, advantageous competitive outcome with a belief in innate superiority of effort.  In no normal conversation would someone equate self-confidence to self-superiority.  Yet here we are. The factors which have led some people to conclude that the system "doesn't work" have been known for decades.  Yet in all that time, nobody lifted a finger to make this kind of fundamental change until now.  Right when our protagonist would have been enjoying their moment of glory.

When a change is made in the interests of racial sensitivity, there's an expectation that proponents of the change endorse racial sensitivity through their actions.  No system is perfect, and there will always be some groups which are disadvantaged in minor or major ways. It's worrying, then, when the proponents of the change instead act smug and dismissive towards what should be seen as reasonable concerns from certain racial groups.[/quote]

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