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[quote=Anonymous][quote] I do NOT understand why people still cannot wrap their heads around community responsibility during a viral pandemic. Viral. That means that even IF the risk of a bad outcome of a disease were lower than the risk of a bad outcome from a vaccine for an individual, the overall risk of that individual spreading the disease to others-- not to mention potentially incubating variants-- is likely still exponentially higher.

Let's say the risk of a bad outcome from a vaccine were 10%, and from the disease, only 1% (this is not remotely the case, but for example). If the average person spreads it to 50 downstream (not necessarily directly), many of whom are more vulnerable, the risk of at least one bad outcome in the community is much higher. This is why we shoot for herd immunity, or close to it-- something that leaving kids unvaccinated would definitely preclude.

It's true that this assumes the child will get COVID, which isn't guaranteed. But it's also true that the vaccine is not actually worse than the disease, so.

I'm not living in my basement, I take risks. But it's not all about each individual's risk-- my goodness! It's a virus! That spreads! Where have people been for 18+ months?

This logic-- the vaccine is worse than the disease for my individual kid-- is exactly the same logic that is bringing measles back. The vaccine is not higher risk, even for the individual AND you lose herd immunity and the calculus changes, even in terms of individual risk, when you stop vaccinating. [/quote]

Um, it’s not spring of 2020 anymore. High risk adults have been vaccinated. Even the immunocompromised can access the mRNA vaccines.

Why do you think hers immunity can’t be reached without vaccinating children. Children don’t spread nearly as often as adults. Cases are declining in children even among age groups that aren’t eligible for the vaccine.

https://downloads.aap.org/AAP/PDF/AAP%20and%20CHA%20-%20Children%20and%20COVID-19%20State%20Data%20Report%206.24%20FINAL.pdf

Do you understand the difference between herd immunity and zero covid. We have chosen not to live in a locked down zero covid society. The end.

My god. No one thinks measles doesn’t affect kids seriously. One in five people who get measles are hospitalized. The MMR vaccine is required for school because the disease is severe in children.
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