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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Going to need a source on UNC having higher state funding per student than Berkeley and UCLA, not the UC's as a whole. Berkeley/UCLA do not have similar median incomes to UNC, at all. The former two have $112k and $104k, while UNC has $135k in N.C. That's in no way "similar". On top of that, the income required to be upper-middle class is much higher in California. UNC also has a very rabid sports supporting base, similar to Michigan. Equating higher alumni giving rate with satisfaction with the education provided is simply dumb. [/quote] UNC's rabid sports base really only applies to basketball. [/quote] And even then it is has always been referred to as a wine and cheese crowd, not really rabid. My experience is UNC grads seem to be quite supportive of their school ("the Southern Part of Heaven") in a way I haven't seen from UCLA and Berkeley grads. The debate, I guess, is whether this is in part due to UNC being socially more satisfying, sports mania, somewhat smaller (but still pretty big) or if it actually has to do with their satisfaction with the academic experience. These may be difficult to separate. What I would say is the UCLA and Berkeley grads (undergraduate) I have known seem to appreciate elements of their experience there, but aren't overall the most positive. In this debate, I suspect most of the factors mentioned may be relevant. Schools with higher giving rates tend to have some combination of satisfied alumni, higher alumni outreach budgets, wealthier alumni, higher need for support from alumni giving (which really is most schools these days given the decline in public funding for education), perhaps smaller size (but this could be correlated with alumni satisfaction, etc.). It isn't a one factor thing.[/quote]
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