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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Great thread but hiking?  That would be a full stop for me if would be partner hiked.  [/quote]

I have to agree with this.  Hiking does not indicate athleticism or fitness to me, it indicates boredom and lack of imagination.[/quote]

So what’s “creative” fitness then? I’m scratching my head on this one….

Hiking is my go-to first date because it is so challenging. I take guys to one of my favorite mountains and up we go. Always fun to watch them struggle….even the fit ones. Those biceps curls won’t do you any good here, bro…

Only one man was ever able to keep up with me. I miss him, sigh. [/quote]

What a ridiculous thing to say.

It's like saying, "as a guy, I like bringing my girlfriends to the deadlift platform and watch them struggle to get my warm-up weight up off the ground.  It's always fun to watch, even the fit women."[/quote]

NP. [b]Men have such built-in physical advantages that if a guy can't keep up with you - and not in a sport where there's a big skill component, but just in pure cardiovascular fitness, in an area where you don't specifically have to train for [/b]- he's not in great shape. While I don't think it's a particularly kind thing to test your dates like that, it's not the same as having your smaller, non-powerlifting girlfriend try to deadlift. There's also a self-awareness component to agreeing to a physically-intensive first date and then not being able to handle it. I did have a first date like this once and he said he was in good shape and then wasn't at all. If he'd just said 'let's get a drink instead', that would have been fine. [/quote]

I don't know that men have an inherent cardiovascular advantage over women.  Upper body strength, absolutely (infuriatingly), but cardio?  Nah.[/quote]

A woman's VO2 max is on average about 20% lower than a man's. There is certainly more overlap between men and women than for upper body strength, but men still have a significant advantage. If you're an elite athlete and your expectation is that men will keep up with you, that's one thing, but I was just a normal in-shape young person who worked out hard a few days a week, so a guy who couldn't keep up with me wasn't very physically fit. [/quote]

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