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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It sounds so immature when school boosters respond to "hurt feelings" but saying that the poster's loved one must not have gotten in.

Grow up and argue based on substance people. [/quote]

It's a fine school.  It's not the greatest.  It's going downhill rapidly.  And yes, before the crazy W&M boosters show up, I'm an alum.[/quote]

Why do you think that it’s going downhill rapidly?  [/quote]

The school is stretched very thin financially, to start. [b] Instead of spending it on things that matter, like teaching[/b] (professors are notoriously underpaid and a lot of very talented young professors are forced to leave as a result), the school dumps money into silly things that show no tangible benefit, like the St. Andrews program.  There was also the issue of cutting the track teams for men and women, among other high-performing sports teams, recently and alumni fought like hell to bring them back (thankfully, it worked).  On-campus recruiting is very weak, especially when compared to UVA on the business side; you're not getting the same caliber of companies showing up to get W&M students, and if they do come, they're recruiting for the JV team (e.g., Accenture and Deloitte federal show up, not the commercial counterparts).  One of my children started at W&M and transferred out.  They were initially excited about going to their parents' college, but compared to the experience of their siblings at other schools, they didn't think they were getting the full experience and were even getting "ripped off" when it came to campus events and speakers, course selection/variety, and other things.[/quote]

William and Mary is #4 among all National Universities in USNWR in undergraduate teaching.  If you look at Niche Ratings of what students say about professors, (Are they interesting, passionate, care about students, accessible, easy to understand?), William and Mary professors are rated higher than all of the more selective public universities I see (Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, UVA, Georgia Tech, UNC, Florida, Texas, etc.) in every single category.  It seems to me William and Mary probably focuses more on teaching than many other schools.

You say recruiting is very weak, but Princeton Review has William and Mary at #1 for internships among public schools and #14 for best career services.  If you look at the first destinations reports for Virginia colleges, William and Mary is among the best in percentage of students still looking for employment 6 months after graduation.  The only website I know that tracks undergraduate business school salaries and bonuses, Poets&Quants, has William and Mary at #4 among public schools.[/quote]

DP, not denying that W&M probably has great teaching, but prestige is not necessarily correlated to excellent teaching. Harvard is pretty notorious for having a subpar undergrad/teaching experience, and there are certain community colleges out there that have truly phenomenal teachers.[/quote]

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