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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Poorer people bring down property values and bring crime. [b]Poor people also are more likely to not have time to discipline their kids, have drug or alcohol problems etc[/b]...[/quote]

This P should be embarrased.  Unbelievable ignorance.[/quote]

That "P" should be embarrassed because he told the truth?  Or he because he was not politically correct?   Do you have your head stuck so far in the sand that you deny that lower class people bring down property values and have a higher rate of crime?  [/quote]

Are you SURE this person is telling the truth?  Or is this person just spouting the stereotypical dogma that you hear on Rush Limbaugh?  Some of the most undisplined kids running amok that I have seen come from familes that are considered high and middle income.  So a family with law firm partner or corporate executive parent would have MORE time to discipline their kids than the maintenance engineer in that building?  Really?  I would agree that the higher income person would have more access to educational resources, but we are talking about discipline.

I am in public health and there is no [u]credible[/u] statistical correlation between SES and substance abuse.

So basically, my impression of the person who made this statement is that this person has very little personal interaction with poor people and pretty much gets their info from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.   [/quote]

NP. Being blind to the facts does not make it go away.
Hispanics and Blacks are more than twice as likely to be below the poverty line than whites and asians. 
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/cats/income_expenditures_poverty_wealth/poverty.html
Blacks have a higher child injury and mortality rate. Hispanics and white are almost the same. Asians are the lowest. 
http://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/tables/phy7b.asp
Black youths are more likely to be victimes of violent crime
http://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/tables/phy6.asp

I'm a liberal, do not watch Fox news and hate RL. However, ignoring the correlation between poverty and education does not make it go away. Ignoring the correlation between crime and poverty does not make it do away. Ignoring the correlation between poverty and race does not make it go away.

This is not to say that any race is harder working or genetically smarter than another. There are historical inequalities that have led us to where we are today. As much as the U.S. has tried to correct these inequalities, they still exist. Why? There are many theories, but the fact is there is no one right theory or one right answer. There are multiple variables and every thing boils down to individual choices based on lifetime experiences.

People like you, who ignore the problem and label anyone that admits there is an issue as racist, do nothing to solve the problem. In fact, you are part of the problem. There are 3 sides - the far right that think minorities are inferior and thus should be left in poverty and crime as long as its not in their backyard, and many liberals who don't want to admit that there is correlation between race, crime, and poverty. The third group is stuck - the moderates (right and left) who acknowledge there is a correlation but it is not indicative of the potential of any individual or any group. Unfortunately, we get branded racist is we mention the correlation, and we know without a doubt we don't belong with the far right because we think people, regardless of race and background, can overcome obstacles if given the right resources.

Get your head out of the sand. Ignoring the problem does not make it go away.
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