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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But what did you and your DH do before you had kids? What's wrong with traveling? I traveled a lot with dh and my parents before kids. This is your time to see places- Hawaiii,machu picchu or whatever you've always wanted before old age.

What about your careers? Are you retired?

I'm sorry about the lack of grandchildren. I will say that it factored into us having a 3rd baby. We're hoping one of the three will want to have kids. We only have one sibling each and they didn't have children. Our parents basically fight over every holiday for grandkids. [/quote]

Good idea. We often wish we had more kids.

But again, we are pretty active. Not needing things to do.  [/quote]

I get it.   I'm not at that stage yet, but would feel the same as you.   You things to fill your time....but not your heart.   I get it.

I feel like it's an outgrowth of our culture.  True family connection (not splitting off and making other tiny families, but remaining a multigenerational connected family) has become secondary to [b]education/jobs/careers/money/"independence".[/b]   This is our culture and I am trying hard to teach my children a different value system.  Just keep track of how many people on this board alone are starting to recognize that being close to extended family is something they wish they had.    It's sad but has to change on a personal level before society will accept a change.
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I grew up in a place where lots of people didn't leave because family. It ensures people stay poor.  Most people have to move to find jobs and you really hobble your kids if you don't let them fly. I think it is awful when parents stop their kids from going to the colleges they want or discouraging a kid from finding a better job just because the parents want them to stay close by. In high school, my best friend and I competed for scholarships but she had parents like pp. She never left our little town, got a crap degree from our community college, and has worked in retail every day she could keep a job. In the town I'm from there is tough competition for jobs in retail or fast food. People lose their jobs constantly and younger people chase older people out of those jobs. My friend lives barely above the poverty level.[/quote]

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