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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's ok if it's done well, adapts and the curriculum innovates. For my kids, it was extremely redundant and boring. I'm not sure either of them are approaching life and decision-making differently after years of it. A year of COVID and learning about resiliency and disappoint has probably done more for them.

As a teacher, I am ok with some integration into the classroom but I absolutely hate it being forced onto me professionally and the expectation that I practice SEL with my colleagues. I am a super introvert and I don't want to feel vulnerable, talk to my colleagues about my SEL needs and I don't want to feel pressured into participating in all the extra activities. [/quote]

this is actually a really important point. for someone who has been through trauma or is just very private/introverted, “SEL” techniques like meditations can actually be harmful. actual therapists and mediation teachers know that there is no one size fits all. [/quote]

LMAO you have no clue what meditation is do you?[/quote]

yes, I do. and good meditation teachers know that you need to be very careful with how you teach meditation to someone with a history of trauma, anxiety, or other mental health challenges. even an instruction to “pay attention to the breath” can cause anxiety/panic in some people. [/quote]

You really don't, meditation can literally be done by anyone who knows the basic foundations. It's not something needed by a licensed professional. Leave it to white people to take my people's traditional practices and make it into something to be monetized.[/quote]

you literally have no clue what you’re talking about. and if you’re mad about “white people” monetizing cultural practices, you ought to be mad at “SEL” grift as well.

https://www.thescienceofpsychotherapy.com/is-mindfulness-safe-for-trauma-survivors/[/quote]

Oh thanks for linking a useless website article. No need to put white people in quotations, it is white people who are the primary culture vultures. I suggest you do actual research on what mediation is and how anyone can do and benefit from it. The one thing you said that is correct is there is no one size fits all. However as a teacher at a title 1 school with children who have been raped, beaten, experienced homelessness, etc. I can tell you this has helped them, it's not the sole reason by any means. Professional counseling is also a huge help.

Ps. social emotional learning is not the same things a mediation, which again you don't need a master's degree to perform. But I doubt you will admit your lack of knowledge about cultural appropriation and meditation. [/quote]

your refusing to engage with a well-known phenomenon among actual meditation
 teachers and psychologists just makes me even more convinced that “SEL” is poorly thought out nonsense.  I won’t even get into your absurd claim that mindfulness and meditation are exclusively non-white. [/quote]

Ah yes, only white meditation is ACTUAL meditation. How silly and very ignorant of me. Maybe it's silly at your little NW school but it has stopped some children at my school from committing suicide. I will agree, I've worked at schools where SEL is just a checklist but that doesn't mean it's not valuable when done with purpose.
Traditional meditation is yes a non-white practice. I mean look what you did to yoga, it's become a white woman's 'exercise.'[/quote]

wow I’m even more concerned about “SEL” now. suicidal kids need to be getting therapy and medical care - not “SEL” delivered by unstable people like you. [/quote]

Oh wow, I'm sure you're so concerned about Black children.
And really? Insulting an anon on a forum just because they don't agree with you? Classy.[/quote]

I am concerned about kids dealing with trauma and social/mental health issues, which is exactly why I think the “SEL” figleaf is repulsive. As for that PP she seems both ignorant and unbalanced, so yeah. [/quote]

If you can't bother to read the previous posts that's on you. That is one component of helping kids deal with trauma, not the whole picture. And what would you know? Have you ever worked in a school where 30% of the children are homeless? Where there are so many children facing trauma we have to have 2 social workers, school psyc, and a counselor? Please don't demean the practice of everyday wellness. It's not the cure for these kids for sure but it's a step towards the right direction.[/quote]

you’re not actually engaging in my point about trauma.  it’s well known that some forms of meditation instruction can have unanticipated negative effects on people with trauma or other mental health issues - like depersonalization, anxiety, panic. It’s even MORE concerning that untrained practitioners would be delivering this to kids in high poverty schools without any awareness of this basic fact. Even worse the fact that this could take the place of actual psychological services as DCPS and schools pat themselves on the back about their “SEL.” A teacher with a few days training in “SEL” is not a therapist. [/quote]

Hmm and yet as a self-contained teacher I am in charge of all my students behavioral IEP goals, have to figure our how to further their social skills and emotional regulation. And yet I am not a therapist, and despite this I have successfully transitioned kids back into gen ed or made significant progress with them. Admittedly less so this year, as we lost 2 terms to DL.[/quote]

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