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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We need an education overhaul across the whole country. I’m ready to start from scratch. So many things wrong. And I would agree that they aren’t handling diversity well at all. [b]Why is there not a separate system for getting esol kids up to speed in English[/b]? They’re just failing those students by keeping them in mainstream when they don’t understand. [/quote]

I subbed in a high school that has a large esol population. Some of these kids are coming in so poorly prepared that they have dedicated classes for them in other subjects (e.g. math) that take two periods to teach a year's worth of material. One problem is that when the population gets large enough and they don't speak English, they all hang out with peers who speak their native language and all end up in the same classes with those peers, so they learn very little English no matter what you do.

I also subbed in a MS and during one of the teacher's planning periods, another teacher brought a student in for a one on one in the empty classroom. [b]She sat with the kid and they spent the period reviewing the alphabet (I kid you not).[/b]

That said, there are some esol kids who come in very well prepared (sometimes far better prepared than American peers the same age) in subjects other than English. And when they do they also have a much better attitude, better work ethic and more respect for learning and teachers than their American peers as well. Those kids are fine in a mainstream environment.

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I'm an ESOL teacher and we often get illiterate Spanish-speaking middle schoolers. They haven't attended school regularly or at all in their country. Many students come from countries where they have a different alphabet. Why is it so unbelievable that ESOL teachers have to teach students how to read?[/quote]

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