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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How about you consider his viewpoint that he doesn't want girls in Boy Scouts? Maybe it all stems from this. Boys act differently when there are girls around. The dynamics change. If he is gay then maybe he doesn't want the boys 
in his troop to start talking about and flirting with girls. It was his safe place and now it is changing. [/quote]

This was a couple of years ago. He now realizes what we tried to tell him in the beginning - the girls have their own troops. The boys have absolutely no interaction with the girls. They are totally separate. [/quote]

So the entire exercise was a failure.  His experience changed but not to his benefit, he got in trouble with his mother/parents when he complained about it, and it didn't improve Boy Scouts either.

Poor kid.  [/quote]

He did not get in trouble at all. Not even close. We had a calm and rational conversation. I simply let him know that the girls would be totally separate, and I asked him what experiences he has had that should only be available to men. This is a reasonable question. He also said that they should just do Girl Scouts. I explained to him that this would be a great solution if the two organizations were similar.[b] I was a GS leader for several years. I explained to him, with examples, that Boy Scouts is much more robust and the Eagle has much more clout than the Gold Award in GS.[/b][i][u] I did not attack him for his views in any way. We just had a conversation. He was given an opportunity to explain his viewpoint, but he had nothing. Just wanting to keep this boys club. [/quote]

Wow.
Sounds like you have a REALLY crappy response to your son when he was upset that an organization he enjoyed was changing.  You both enforced the negative stereotypes about a girls organization, highlighted how you thought the girls experience was more important than your sons, and dismissed his concerns.

And for the record, I’m a Girl Scout leader.  Sorry if you didn’t do “robust” programming - but that’s on you.[/quote]

But isn't she right about things like the Eagle Scout award having more clout? And aren't there specific ways the federal government recognizes Boy Scouts? I don't know a lot about that but have that impression. [/quote]

Unfortunately that is the impression, but it’s an incorrect one.  Colleges give the same clout to gold vs. eagle, and the federal government - including the military - give the same recognition.  For example, Both Eagle Scouts and Gold Award Girl Scouts enter the military one rank ahead.
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