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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Mosby was a pretty interesting fellow from a historical standpoint—after the civil war he condemned the confederacy and became a staunch supporter of the US, campaigned for Grant, appointed a diplomat, only to have his house burned down by Confederate arsonists who felt betrayed by his change of heart. 
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There you go with your nuance again. :roll: 
No need to mentioned how Lee's surrender at Appomattox probably saved the country years of guerrilla warfare.[/quote]

Is this some sort of Confederate fetish?
Lee was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans in defense of the South’s authority to own millions of human beings as property because they are black. [/quote]

You might want to read up on Lee he is a very interesting character, very conflicted about the war, was a noted progressive who hated slavery having decried it as a "evil institution", who freed his slaves during the war a few days before the emancipation proclamation, and a famous educator before the war and after as well.

He was offered command of Union forces.  Think of him in the following situation:  Lee would be from France and offered command of the EU army, who itself was engaged in a war against France.  The various states at the time were more akin to the current countries of Europe bound together via the EU today, so in such a scenario one might understand why he fought for Virginia.

This isn't to glorify the man, but understand that things were not black and white as the pop culture version of the civil war might appear to be.[/quote]

I see the Confederate apologists have arrived in this thread. Someone like Lee who supposedly hated slavery but kept slaves and fought for the preservation of slavery is arguably worse. Certainly his priorities were effed.

And if you are also the PP arguing that Confederates were not traitors because they followed orders -- can you even hear yourself? We want our military to follow *lawful* orders, which secession was not.  Lee resigned from the U.S. military in order to oppose it on unlawful "orders" from a subordinate political entity after that entity failed to advance its position using the existing legal processes, such as national elections and lawmaking.

This is not morally or legally complicated. Attempts to make it complicated reflect poorly on you.

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The problem with this analysis is that states are not a subordinate political entity to the federal government.  As I tried to point out god knows how many pages back, the Constitution formed the federal government by the sovereign states.  Lee was loyal to Virginia, and this was not unusual for the time.  This is not a defense of the Confederacy.

That you people can't seem to understand basic Constitutional theory is not my problem.[/quote]

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