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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“Santa has nothing to do with Christ or Christianity or religion or faith. What is wrong with you? it is like the Easter Bunny or tooth fairy. It isn't real and has nothing at all, zero, zilch to do with faith. You are woefully ignorant about Christianity. “

I am Christian. Of course I know he is not tied into the Christ story (as I said in the message you replied to) although I do think he has become a symbol of Christmas, which is a Christian holiday. The fact that lots of atheists also culturally celebrate Christmas does not make it not a Christian holiday.

And what we are talking about is not a philosophical discussion of faith among grown ups - it is how to explain to small children not to say cruel things.

I would not tolerate my child telling a Jewish person that Hanukkah is a sham because there is no way oil would have lasted that long or that Passover is a crock because there is no “Angel of death” that kills only Egyptian babies. Because it is rude and disrespectful to do that. And I think this “respect for other religions” approach would resonate more strongly with my kids than if I just said “it’s a secret” or “it’s a lie so go ahead and say what you want”. [/quote]

Exactly![/quote]

No it is not the same. You can’t prove either way about the oil.  It’s provable right now who gave the Santa gifts. [/quote]

I agree that they are not the same but not so much because of what is probable but rather because of what is a genuinely held belief. Any religious belief that is genuinely held by members of a faith is quite different from a lie told to children, that all adults accept is not true, regardless of whether that lie has a connection to religion or not.

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