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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Switched EOTP to WOTP elementary, and kind of regret it. I don't think WOTP is significantly better in the ways I care about. And in some ways it's worse in ways that I do care about.  Both are fine, I just can't get too excited about WOTP.[/quote]

Could you elaborate on the specific things that you care about? [/quote]

Individual attention from teachers.  I think the academic challenge was actually better EOTP in some ways. WOTP does have now cool stuff that the PTA bus, but I can also supplement that EOTP and maybe benefit some kids who otherwise wouldn't have been exposed to it.

More diverse learning environment. There's a lot the kids are learning other than academics. I'd like my kids to be capable of working with anyone. WOTP is kind of sheltered. At least for elementary school.

EOTP, the mean kids/bullies aren't generally the kids of the super PTA parents.  I think there's some reluctance from WOTP teachers to address these issues with bratty kids.

PTA/dues. There's a lot of pressure to donate [b]thousands[/b] to the PTA.

Parents community.  While the kids experience is more of a focus, I connect much better with the parents EOTP.  I don't do well with snobs.

Commute. Sucks.[/quote]

*chokes* Thousands?! I gave our (eotp) PTA $200 and felt awesome about myself. Is this what everyone else is giving?! [/quote]

We live EOTP, not WOTP.  But I know that the schools WOTP PTA provides things like instructors and programming for the higher achieving kids since DCPS will not.

Also, as someone else posted, a kid scoring 3.5 is going to get a ton of support to bring him to grade level.  So sounds like they are much better at supporting those at the bottom (defined as 3 on PARCC) and those at the top.

Frankly, we would have no problem donating a few thousand to get those services. [/quote]

But part of the reason a child making a 3 on the PARC will get so much attention WOTP is that there aren't many kids making 1 s and 2s, so 3s the resoruces like RTI. Same resources EOTP, but EOTP these resources are going to kids who are further behind. I think high acheiving kids can do great in a struggling school - they will stand out and get special attention because of it.  It's the kids who are a year behind grade level rather than two or three years that limp along.[/quote]

If high achieving kids are doing so great at title 1 schools, then why can’t they keep them in the upper elementary?  Why are they not going to DCPS middle schools EOTP?  
Why is 50% of the kids in DC go to charter schools?   If you break down this 50% to WOTP and EOTP, it will be much, much higher than 50%.

The data doesn’t support your assertion above.  [/quote]

Racism.  It explains a lot of it.

And yes, I've heard all the excuses like "but test scores", "but SES not race", "but POC do it too"... I hear you, but I don't believe you.[/quote]

If you want to use the race card to blanket and explain all the problems with DCPS, that’s your choice.

But we as a minority parent along with our many AA friends disagree.  We don’t see middle class AA friends sending their kids to the poor performing schools either.  Not an option in their book at all. But sure, they don’t because they are racist too.  No other reason for it.

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+1  We left our title 1, for a HRC. College educated middle class black family, though not originally from DC. We know other black and brown middle & upper middle class families that are doing the same or moving out to MD or VA. You do have to believe it for it to be true! [/quote]

Thanks for your input.  I’m sure your reasons for leaving a title 1, poor performing school could be the same as another white family.  But the people who say it’s all or mostly about race will not acknowledge it and instead say the white family is racist.

These people don’t understand that when they do this, it drives away the families who might otherwise possibly stay. 
Racist people will leave no matter what. 
Those who are not racist but have concerns about a school will be on the fence.  But when you dismiss their concerns and play the race card with them and everyone, they will leave too.

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