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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Were there kids who scored in the 99th percentile within MCPS (vs 99 percentile nationally). Who didn’t get in the magnets?  I don’t remember anyone like that posting when the results come out, but of course that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.  [/quote]

Yes absolutely.  My kid was at a regional CES and there were only 8 kid admitted across all three CES classes.  There were many really high scoring kids who did not get into the Magnet MS.

MCPS changed the MS Magnets around last year.  Instead of pulling just the highest scoring kids, they took lower scoring students who scored high relative to others at their lower performing schools.  In other words, a kid with an 89%ile score at a lower performing school would get in over a 99%ile kid at a school with lots of 99%ile kids.
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That’s being equitable.[/quote]

There is no such thing as being equitable in performance. You can either produce or you can't, I don't care how young your mom was or the status of your dad or papers. The door out of the lower class will never be wide open, you are just shuffling the mechanisms the middle class use. Get a bunch of not quite the top of their class poor kids at the magnet programs and the upper SES will change the marker for what makes a college resume standout. Semesters studied abroad or private swim teams competitions or the like.

I get the "we need that" mob mentality when people see disparities, but people should ask is that really what is doing it? Causation or correlation. If the magnet was all poor kids who somehow performed similarly today, nobody would care. Look at Banneker in DC.    [/quote]

I was a poor/LMC kid in Florida who got a chance to be in a magnet program:  absolutely the single biggest factor in propelling me to Yale and eventually Yale Law.  I probably tested 85% to 98% on those gifted tests.  But the magnet programs gave us poor immigrant kids access to small classes and great teachers.  My parents, new white collar immigrants, had no clue about the program and certainly did not prep me.  If I had to compete with 99%'ers who were prepped to get in to a limited amount of magnet slots, I would not be where I am.   Not everyone will have the stark experience that I had, but we can certainly extrapolate that they will have a better outcome than if they did not get identified as talented.  So, that will be one less person under-employed, giving back to the community with their time, philanthropy, and taxes.  Eventually, it is equitable.  [/quote]

Yep.  I was same - not Fla, Yale but similar trajectory.  I will boost magnet programs for the underrepresented until the day I die.[/quote]
Question for two PPs. 
Are your own children in magnets?[/quote]

Yes, first PP.  My 5th grader is in a CES W-feeder.  And if my 99%`er DC doesn't get in to a magnet due to cohort factors, I'm totally fine with that.
My kid will be fine.[/quote]

So is your Yale law family now hoarding the opportunities to advance in the manner that worked for you a generation ago?[/quote]

Can’t be “hoarding” under universal screening.  [/quote]

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