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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Plenty of people who aren't religious ask for priests at the end of their lives. [b]The power of prayer is real[/b], whether the person being prayed for believes or not. Maybe your friend realizes this or has [b]read the studies[/b].[/quote]

link?
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Most people have the links already  :lol: . They experienced others praying for them per their request in the most unreal of circumstances when something had absolutely no chance to happen but it did. This is the power of prayer. You either experienced it or not. 
Universe is generous, you just fail to believe. You need to believe many  times a day for things to happen.

You need to believe you can get to work, otherwise you would stay at home. You need to believe that you have to eat or otherwise you will die.
This is all in a way based on believe because knowledge is one thing but believing makes you doing things. You don't do anything you don't believe.
You don't go to the store in the middle of the night because you believe it is closed. You do go to new vacation destination you have never been to before because you believe that it is actually there even if you have not been there. You believe that there is a water in the faucet that is why you open it.  Sometimes even if you did believe, water was not there :lol: especially in the publc restroom, lots of people believed there is a water, a soap or a paper towel but there was not.

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PP said "read the studies". Which studies? 
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The ones that show that prayer works in exactly the same percentage (or lower!) as the placebo effect.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2018/12/04/the-science-behind-prayer-and-the-placebo-effect/#50f490e0639c

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer [/quote]

Interesting, so prayer = placebo.

[b]How would that apply to OP's atheist? If the atheist knows that praying is a placebo [/b](AKA doesn't believe it's a real treatment) is it still effective? 
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Because OP's friend is giving OP something to do.

You know those people who always want to do something to make themselves feel better (people pleasers), or always *need* something to do? That's OP, and OP's friend was giving OP this task to make her feel like she's doing something... or maybe to altogether leave the friend alone. [/quote]

So the atheist is trying to make OP feel better with the "placebo" of prayer. OK, that makes more sense. Very kind of her to be so considerate of OP.

I thought the PPs were trying to say that there are studies that show that "prayer" works. And not just in a placebo way like it does for OP.

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