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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I side with the Church.  If you can't represent your company with honesty, find another company.  There are a million schools where a person can teach.  No Chevy dealer is going to have any credibility if he drives a Lexus.  The President of a country shouldn't be a citizen of a different country.  Talk the talk?  Then walk the walk.[/quote][/quote]

But but but.. haven't Pope Francis only just (January 2019) said..  and I quote:

[b]Pope Francis says homosexual tendencies are ‘not a sin’[/b]

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/04/01/pope-francis-says-homosexual-tendencies-are-not-a-sin/

So enlighten me if you will. If homosexual tendencies are not a sin.. and you got a Pope speaking "ex cathedra" 
then why in heaven (pan intended) the school was sanctioned. [/quote]
Francis wasn’t speaking ex cathedra. He gave his opinion but used no authoritative language.  Also, this teacher was ACTING on homosexual tendencies ( he didn’t just have them)
In Christ
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He made a statement. That is pretty damn ex cathedra as far as the rest of the world is concerned. He said it for a reason. If he did not mean it, he would not have said right? [/quote]
You have no freaking  clue what ex cathedra means. A Pope saying something doesn’t automatically make it ex cathedra. He must put his authority behind the statement and say it is binding on all the faithful for it to be ex cathedra. From the Catechism of Pius X( published under Pope Pius X)

“57 Q. When is the Pope infallible?
A. The Pope is infallible when, as Pastor and Teacher of all Christians and in virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by all the Church.”

[b]The ignorance of basic theology from Catholics on DCUM would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.[/b]
In Christ
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Yet the same Christ you claim to be "In", fought the theology of his time with simple parables  and his simple message
"love one another", and .. he won every single time. Because as you see.. at the end of the day, it is not about the books, it is not about the philosophy or theology.. it is about simple acts of love. You sign Christs name, but what did you do today or yesterday in his  name to be in his image.. did you feed the hungry, clothed the needy, did you visit someone sick, did you post a caring answer on DCUM?
Or do you spray hate, justify horrible things done  to people who did nothing wrong.

Peace with you. If anyone needs a prayer on this forum, you might be one who needs it the most.
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Hear Christ’s words in Luke 19:27

“27 But bring here those enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, and slay them before me.’ ”
In Christ
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Ahahaa.. okay, you think you can  pull a fast one? Well, you could if I did not know any better about when the Luke's Gospel has been written.
Do you even want to go there? Because for one, if something does not sounds like Christ could say it then he probably did not. Right?
Just read the Luke again and see if you hear Jesus in them.

Autographs (original copies) of [b]Luke and the other Gospels have not been preserved[/b], as is typical for ancient documents; [b]the texts that survive are third-generation copies, with no two completely identica[/b]l.[15] The earliest witnesses (the technical term for written manuscripts) for Luke's gospel fall into two "families" with considerable differences between them, the Western and the Alexandrian, and the dominant view is that the Western [b]text represents a process of deliberate revision[/b], as the variations seem to form specific patterns.[16] The fragment
4 is often cited as the oldest witness. It has been [b]dated from the late 2nd century, although this dating is disputed.[/b] Th[b]e oldest complete texts are the 4th century Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus[/b], both from the Alexandrian family; Codex Bezae, a 5th- or 6th-century Western text-type manuscript that contains Luke in Greek and Latin versions on facing pages, appears to have descended from an offshoot of the main manuscript tradition, departing from more familiar readings at many points. Codex Bezae shows comprehensively the differences between the versions which show no core theological significance. 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Luke

:shock: 
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Not shocked at all. I’ve heard this all before. You are a heretic who doesn’t even believe in the authenticity of the Gospels. Going further with you  would be a waste of time. I’ll pray for your conversion.
In Christ
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Oh before I go I just have to give it a try:  [b]the authenticity of the Gospels[/b]

Well, for one it is hart to be  a heretic before one had been a believer. The word heretic is reserved for those who are believers and then they drift away this way or another...  saying things that oppose the original religion they practice or practiced more less right? So.. just because I know this or that does not mean I am either believer or material for heretic or actual heretic. Then again, as someone one said, not all believers will go to heaven, and not all heretics will go to hell, we both might be just the pair.  :lol:

So.. where were we.. aha.. :  [b]the authenticity of the Gospels[/b]

So first of all we would need to agree on the meaning of the term Gospel and then we would need to discuss what the authentic mean comes to an ancient texts. Then of course we need to go back and do a little chronology check and see who lived when and where.. and if we start with Jesus himself, and then we lip to those who did write Gospels there is a wee bit of time break anywhere you slice it. So.. what really is authentic? Is it what Jesus said, is it what Gospel writer wrote or is it what the Church tradition cared to pass to our times?

Hm.. I guess we can go on or stop here. As you see I can totally go on but I suppose but as you stated above you are done so let's stop here.
 :lol:  :lol: [/quote]

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