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Holy crap, how can you tell? I didn't say anything about being a first generation immigrant. Is my English that terrible? As a matter of fact, yes I do believe that being from another country has influenced my support for Trump. Our liberal friends will find this observation incredulous but Trump reflects the traditional image of an America that values strength as a virtue and taking pride in a job well done. He has governed in the past two years by always putting the interests of America first, which is such a basic principle that for it to be somehow construed as a faulty view point by his political opponents underlines just how much the US needs to regain its sense of purpose and direction. Competition among the nations of the world is good, it is to be encouraged, and healthy - so long as everyone is competing using the same set of rules. And that brings me to the other side of the coin: I come from a country that had a failed attempt at a Marxist society, so I see the current attempt by progressives in the US to do the same as utter foolishness. The principles of classical liberalism has served the US well, and even as we adopt more socially liberal policies due to the natural progression of culture, there are certain bedrock principles that will bring the destruction of our democracy if we choose to erode them: the protection of civil liberties under the rule of law.  [/quote]

DP: Your English is very good! Previous PP must work for the CIA or something like that :-)

Btw, where exactly are you from, if you don't mind? You don't sound Eastern European to me but that's the most likely "Marxist society" reference.[/quote]

The PP had me pegged based on, what, three sentences? I am amazed and impressed. I hope to have read something the PP wrote. I have a lot of respect for people who are masters at their craft. Amazing.

I was originally from China. My grand parents were evil capitalists who owned printing factories, which I guess was the worst kind of capitalism. They had their factories first regulated on what they could print, then confiscated and nationalized in the name of socialism. You know what's sad is that my grandma was so scared that she didn't even dare to tell me anything about our history. On the rare occasion when my mom would slip and say something, my grandma would shush her because it was dangerous to have fond memories of the past prior to socialism. Socialism stole my family's livelihood, our freedom, and even our history. It is cruel and evil. [/quote]

I am the PP writer - cruel and evil seems like a vast understatement for what your family went through.

[b]Just, for whatever it's worth - I loathe Trump but am a capitalist. I lean toward libertarian/liberal. We used to (jokingly) be called liberalatarians, and now I guess we get disparagingly called neoliberals. I do want some things that I think anti-socialists fear - government healthcare available to all, for example - but I do not want to do away with our capitalist system overall. I think it's the best of our imperfect choices. The most opportunity, the most freedom, the most safety. (Largely) free markets and freely available healthcare. I guess that would be my overall platform. I think immigrants make our society stronger, that we want to cultivate businesses, and protection of the environment is critical.
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Anyway, thank you for your response. More than you could know, and probably more than is really mentally healthy, it's given me a bit of hope to be able to have a friendly back and forth with someone on this board like this. [/quote]

I exactly feel the same. I believe in markets and the mechanism of price discovery. I think government should stay out of the way, but I believe also government has a very important role in protecting its citizens from unscrupulous people who will pollute and poison just to make a buck. As a Adam Smith-style capitalist, I believe EVERYTHING has a cost and that individuals/businesses should pay for the externalities they impose on others and the public goods they consume.

Unfortunately, [b]Republicans are no longer Adam Smith capitalists. They are cronyists - imposing tariffs, tax giveaway to corporations, stifling innovation of small businesses, and not paying for use of public goods - all in exchange for campaign contributions. That is not capitalism.  [/b]
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Couldn't disagree more. That's Democrats these days, including the loonies who made Amazon cancel its NY project which would have provided significant opportunities to a whole region. That's why Hillary raised so much more money than Trump -- she had the corporations and the big donors in the bank.[/quote]

Amazon pulled out because NY was threatening to take away the tax incentives. How is that capitalism when a private sector incumbent is completely dependent on a tax giveaway?

Again, you are no Adam Smith capitalist. You are a cronyist.[/quote]

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