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look, I'm sorry you don't like these reasons.  I get it.

BUT, then help us to reduce the need by providing free birth control (including LARCS), comprehensive sex education (not abstinence only propaganda), affordable and accessible health care, assistance to low income mothers and children and affordable and accessible child care.

If you aren't willing to do these things, the need for abortion will remain.[/quote]

The biggest need us for cultural changes to make people avail themselves if all these free services and then use them.  If you want abortions to be rare, you have to make people take responsibility for their reproduction.  I am an L and D nurse and many of the women I see claimed to have an IUD, always took their pills, had a failed  implant, or the classic broken condom.   Statistically, these  could not have occurred with the frequency I see them and their babies suffer for it. [/quote]

Holy shit, have you ever heard of the term "sampling bias"?

You're a labor and delivery nurse. Of course you see all the exceptions and birth control failures! No sh#t, Sherlock.[/quote]

Of course I understand sampling bias.  I also understand the difference between anecdotal information and rigorous research.   Do you?  [/quote]

Then why did you just cite your anecdotes as the basis for jumping to huge conclusions? Frankly, I'd expect more intellectual rigor from a nurse. For every person you see as a L&D nurse who has an accidental pregnancy, there are easily thousands out there whose birth control didn't fail. You see the exceptional cases.

I'm not impressed by your shallow logic.[/quote]

Actually, I am in a hospital where it is the opposite.  Thousands more women have accidental than planned pregnancies.  I used the anecdote to highlight the need for a cultural way to induce people to use contraception and birth control.  It is good that your experience has been primarily  with women who have had planned pregnancies.   I would like to see most oregnancues planned rather than accidental.   H[b]ow do you propose accomplishing that?[/b] [/quote]

Education about all options. Which politicians from one political party actively oppose.
Funding for widespread availability of various types of birth control at no-cost to people under the age of 30. Which politicians from one political party actively oppose.

Taking away abortion and birth control will not solve this issue. This problem does NOT originate with "lack of responsibility." Instead, the problem originates with lack of leadership across the political and cultural (including churches!) spectrum.

You won't know what you don't know.[/quote]

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