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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think they are making this too much about race, especially considering the county is majority-minority and whites are only the second largest group at MCPS (latinos are #1).

The five groups they identify for special focus  seem to comprise more than half of all students. At that point, why not just focus on all students?

It's like the free lunch program -- at schools where more than a certain percentage of teh student body is entitled to it, they realized it's easier to just give everyone free lunch at that school than deal with the hassle of charging/running a payment program for the minority of kids who don't qualify for it.

[b]I think they should just focus on students who are lower SES, regardless of race.[/b][/quote]
+1 in the other thread about Asian Americans and MS magnet, someone stated that people should stop making it about race, and I responded that I totally agree, but that it's MCPS that keeps bringing race into the picture.

If they want to be race blind in magnets, then why call out races for under achievers?

If they want to look at the individual rather than the group, then why make magnet admission about "peer cohort"?[/quote]

If you truly understand the history of the United States, you know that race and SES are linked. Even if you did focus on SES and didn't mention race, you are still going to find Blacks and Hispanics overrepresented when it comes to poverty.

I find the desire to "take race out of it" to be....questionable. 
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Yes, I do *truly* understand US history, which includes discrimination against Asian Americans, as well.  Do you *truly* understand that?

And I hope you *truly* understand that you can't say "let's look at race when it comes to instance x but not look at race when it comes to instance y".  Either you look at it, or you don't.  Stop picking and choosing when you want to look at race and when you don't.

I have no problem helping low income students. I grew up low income, with very little help from our poor school district when I was in school.  I am now upper/middle income and have donated thousands of dollars to our public schools via the "buy nothing drive"; we participate in the backpack back to school drives.  I have no problem with MCPS helping out low income students. I have a problem with MCPS (and others) picking and choosing when to look at race (when it helps some groups) and when not to (when it doesn't help said group).[/quote]

I think it is perfectly fine to look at SES...but if you think that doing so will get you away from the race factor that you so clearly loathe, you are mistaken.

This country was built on brutality and the subjugation of some to the benefit of others. We see the remnants of this today in the form of massive inequalities with black and brown kids more likely to be in the losing in.

So sure, let's focus on SES in lieu of race. You will still be focused in the same group of kids , but you will probably "feel" better about it.

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so its has nothing to do with culture and intact families right
why do some black and hispanic kids make it
why do almost all asians make it

please this race baiting bs is exactly why trump was able to win

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With this statement, you confirm that you *don't * truly understand the history of this country.

Sadly, I'm not surprised[/quote]
That PP wasn't me... they should focus on income level and leave race out of it. If that means majorty are Black/Hispanics, fine, I've no issue with it all. Again, I grew up low income.  But that's not what MCPS is doing, is it.  They are calling out Black/Hispanic based on income level. So, again, it's MCPS that focuses on race, not me.

There are lots of pretty smart Black/Hispanic kids.  In our neighborhood, there are several Black/Hispanic lawyer parents whose children go to the same school as my kids. Spouse and I have a lowly bachelors degree from a low rated state university.  Yet, somehow, in MCPS's mind (and some other people's minds), our kids have an advantage over the kids of the Black/Hispanic  lawyers in our neighborhood when it comes to academics in our district.   BTW, my parents are immigrants (as am I) and have an ES education, and barely speak any English.

So, I'm wondering what advantage my kids have over those other kids in MCPS, and why my kids are grouped separately by MCPS when it comes to tracking "achievement".[/quote]

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