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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Long past time to drop the SAT/ACT as part of admission process. The SAT/ACT can be gamed legally and illegally. The getting more time is the least of the problems. I really do not know why so many people focus on this one thing. Other kids have been drilled by professionals, shown how to game the test and worked “practice” exams for years. [/quote]

Doing drills and practice exams and learning test-taking strategies is not "gaming the test" or "cheating". Nor are they beyond the reach of even poor students. [/quote]

Yes they are. [/quote]

I’m in education. Poor (and middle class, for the most part) families just do not give a sh-t. I’ve talked til I’m blue in the face about important of test prep and summer programs on and on and it just doesn’t click with them. This isn’t a money problem or resource problem, it’s a culture/values problem. [/quote]

I had a rich donor in my pocket who said he’d pay 100% of fees for 1 or 2 bright kids to go to Harvard’s summer program. I talked to dozens of qualified low and middle income teens and their families. *Nobody* wanted to go. Free. Nobody cared. You can only lead a horse to water...[/quote]

Wow. I don't know where you are but I would've jumped at a chance like that as a teen -- and did. I spent a.semester abroad and also went to a summer workshop at an elite private university (two separate programs) while I was in HS. And I was poor (not DCUM poor, actual food stamps and Medicare poor). Other poor and working class kids I knew of studies abroad in Hs, too.

How wide a net did you cast? I think I heard about these programs from a particularly caring teacher. Also,.These were official established programs, not a single donor -- maybe it sounds a little too informal to the teens and parents you've approached (they might be scared of sending their kids car away; they also might need to know that more than just their kids would be going).[/quote]

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