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Yes.  So they don’t say the Lord’s Prayer.

But [b]it’s public school in the US.  So we say the Pledge of Allegiance.[/b]  [/quote]

What is the logic here?

Public school in the US = have to say PoA? Required by federal law? State law? Local regulations? Or just the schools?
If it were just the schools - what does it have to do with "in the US"? Does being in the US give the school more right to do so?

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Being in the US matters here because we say the pledge for the US.  Not for Canada.  Not the pledge for Uganda.  Not the pledge for Iceland.

I don’t quite understand what the issue is.  [b]What exactly is objectionable about saying the pledge?[/b]  All the PPs just say it makes them uncomfortable, but don’t really specify why.  [/quote]

It is objectionable because it is emblematic of unvarnished, unquestioning nationalism.  It is another indication of American culture brainwashing us with the constant flag/national anthem/military force symbols, parades, memorized speeches, etc., beginning in kindergarten, and it is ridiculous and dangerous.  Nationalism is not the same as patriotism, and this is nationalism.

I can't even go to a sporting event or my kids' swim meet without seeing the flag and singing the national anthem.  Why?  (<-- That's a real question.)

The Pledge is based on the Bellamy "Pledge of Allegiance" which was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham as a campaign to instill the idea of American nationalism in students and to sell flags to public schools.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute

Not coincidentally, Hitler borrowed from aspects of U.S. nationalism for his own purposes.

There is no reason for children to pledge allegiance to a flag.  None.[/quote]

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