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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Skidmore[/quote] Acceptance Rate: 2007 - 39% 2012 - 42% 2019 - 27% Also wrong. This information is out there. Spend two minutes on google before you type.[/quote] I have no idea about Skidmore, but percentages don't tell the whole story. Schools do things to make applying easier like dropping fees, or dropping the essay, or taking the common app, and applications go up particularly from kids who are on the low end of their stat range. Or they get a reputation as sometimes taking a chance on kids, and applications go up, so even if the profile of the accepted kids stayed My kid goes to a school with a 50% acceptance rate. But that's not because it's harder than schools with 70% acceptance rates. It's because it's a school that does really well with low stats kids, so they get lots of applications from very very low stats kids, and kids with other complicating factors. [/quote] OK, so you're not going to use acceptance rate to judge admission difficulty. What will you use then? [/quote] I think you can take into account the average stats of the average admitted student, and also look at Naviance data. [/quote] Naviance data is only for one HS at a time. Very small sample, and only useful to applicants from that HS. If you are looking at the scattergram, it is an amalgam of (probably) five years in one picture, so how can you tell if it is going up or down from Naviance? Bad example. CDS have mid 50% for ACT and SAT. That's a big range and on top of that the scores and test have been reset several times, and the percentages that take SAT vs ACT have changed. Also, you'd want means and not averages.... Maybe you could use percentiles instead of raw numbers, but where do you find that data historically? So not a good measure either. HS rank is only reported by a small number of schools. GPA is relative to HS and might be weighted, might not, and doesn't take rigor into account if it isn't. So that's also not a good barometer. Not only is admissions rate the best barometer of how hard it is to get in, it is kind of the definition of it. No reason to argue against that. Unless you took a dump on a school in a thread and need to have alternative facts to support that in the face of actual data to the contrary. [/quote]
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