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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My experience with cub scouts is that families are thrilled to easily find a place for their girls.  So many moms I've talked to have declared it's nearly impossible to find a den/troop/whatever they are called in Daisy/GS in our area.  If they could even get information about GS at all, in order to have their daughter sign up, it was knowing someone in the troop, or volunteering to start one themselves.  With Cub Scouts, all of them walked into an existing Pack and very few needed to volunteer to get their dens up and running within a week or so.[/quote]

Every system has pros and cons. It's easier to find a den to participate in because there's no size cap on dens -- they have to take everyone from their school/geographic area who wants to join. The rest for many, at least in the early years, can be massive dens that become very chaotic and can overwhelm some kids, especially since BSA doesn't seem to have much in the way of rules about ratios -- our den at its max was 22 boys, with only a single leader (which one time resulted in a handful of boys leaving school grounds into the neighborhood during a den meeting because the den leader couldn't keep track of everyone). GS caps troop sizes at 12 and is strict about ratios so you have to have at least two leaders for every troop; troops can choose to go over the cap, but then have to find another leader. This means it can be harder to find a troop with openings, but the troops themselves are far more manageable in size and have a higher level of supervision.[/quote]

That may have been your experience years ago, but cub scout packs don't run like that.  While there are no official den size limits, most try to stay below 10.  (Our Pack's den goal # is 4-8.)  Also, every cub scout event requires *trained* 2-deep leadership - so not just a body, but a trained body.  So, while I suppose it's possible that our Pack (of 100 boys) can get away with having only 2 leaders available, that's not going to happen.  Instead, our pack will likely have 28 trained adults there (2 per our 14 dens), plus parents since packs are family friendly and allow siblings to participate in everything we do.  Of course, we only meet in that large group setting once monthly, usually we're meeting in our small dens.

I'm unclear on how GS troops are run - do all your ranks interact with each other, ever, or are they completely independent of one another?  [/quote]

This was my experience as recently as last year. One cub scout pack covering two elementary schools, one den per grade level. Some dens had two leaders, ours only had one.[/quote]

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