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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm kind of shocked they caved to the Henry families. Also surprised Alcova didnt get moved to Fleet.  It seems like the county always caters to certain neighborhoods.[/quote]

Without that neighborhood at Drew the farms rate will be over 80 percent, easily. That's why they didn't publish it in these documents. Itll be higher than carlin springs and they just don't care. Nauck wanted its own elementary and now APS is going to give it to them.[/quote]

They posted the FARMS rates in the school-level data doc. Drew's FARMS rate will go down from 85% to 83%. So they can brag about reducing one of the above-average FARMS rates schools. (Which, btw, is disingenuous because Drew's current FARMS rate is much *lower* due to the Montessori program being co-located. So one could easily look at this as blowing out Drew's FARMS levels by quite a lot.) 
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Also worth mentioning that this is the first time they ever published the farms rate for the non-montessori portion. They've been hiding the truth for years and now they expect credit for "improving" it? NFW.[/quote]

That's actually not the case. See the post above (or page before, I don't remember), laying out enrolled FARMS rate vs. resident FARMS rate. 85%/83% are the resident FARMS rates, not enrolled FARMS rates. Drew, like Randolph, sends a lot of kids to option schools via VPI, so enrolled FARMS rate is lower than resident FARMS rate.[/quote]

But, Drew also sent a lot of kids to Hoffman-Boston due to the old Nauck civic ass'n option. I assume they're eliminating that, so more kids might be coming back to Drew than would otherwise be the case based on transfers alone?[/quote]

The Hoffman-Boston students will be coming back. I don't have data on the demographics of who transfers from Drew to HB, but during discussions here it has been asserted that since Drew is the default for those students who are eligible, the transfers from Drew to HB tend to be disproportionately non-FARMS who want to get out of Drew. If that's true, returning those students to Drew should, if anything, improve the FARMS rate at Drew rather than make it worse.[/quote]

No, the current statistic includes those students. They've already been accounted for. [/quote]

It's correct that the students in the Drew zone who transferred to HB are included in the resident FARMS statistics, but I'm talking about something a little different. While the enrolled FARMS rate in the graded program probably wasn't as high the resident FARMS rate they provided in the table (because of all of the FARMS students who transfer out via VPI), it would have been bumped up by the students who transferred from Drew to HB if those students are disproportionately non-FARMS. The net effect of the the boundary changes, once transfers from Drew to HB are discontinued, will likely be an enrolled FARMS rate that is lower the historical FARMS rate of the graded program (and meaningfully lower than the resident FARMS rate) because you'll still have VPI transfers out, but fewer non-FARMS transfers out.[/quote]

I'm not trying to be argumentative but take a look at this table. Its currently enrolled students by planning unit, excluding option schools (hb is not an option school. That means you can derive a pretty good actual, not resident farms rate figure for any combination of PUs you choose. As I said, I've done that, and I'm confident there isn't some cache of uncounted, non farms students out there.
https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/DRAFT-Planning-Unit-Level-Enrollment-Estimates-2019-to-2021-for-Web.pdf[/quote]

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