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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP- you need to figure out you.
If you TRULY don't want kids now or ever, go get a vasectomy TOMORROW.  Done.  To not do so is very very irresponsible.

Then if you have a vasectomy, women really know from day 1 that you will not have children.  Then it is their choice to stay.

Most of my friends (male and female) who didn't want children, eventually did want and have children.  Why?  Because they wanted a family of their own to grow old with.
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You have obviously never visited a retirement community in this country.[/quote]

First of all, how do you know which people you're seeing there have kids or not? Second, there are many elderly people who would (and do) choose to live in an organized community with other people in a similar stage of life rather than with an adult child, but still have very enriching extended family lives.

But more importantly: when people are talking about a family of their own to grow old with, they generally don't mean, "I want someone to sponge bathe me when I'm 85" (although this is something I've done for my own mother!)...they're talking about experiencing all the joys of having a family in your 50s, 60s, 70s. Which, make no mistake, are plentiful[/quote]

What you're describing is relatively rare in the American context. Older parents and adult children tend to get together maybe once or twice a year and that's it. Maybe if the adult children have kids, then the number of times increases to twice as much for free childcare ("Oh, I'm coming back for my high school reunion. Dad, can you babysit my 2yo?") [b]Dealing with family is honestly a pain judging by the threads in the FamilyR/ships section of DCUM.[/b]
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Lol!!! Well, duh, if that's what you're basing your determination on...haha. Come on. By that logic, most people also make $250k+ / year, judging by threads on DCUM. But anyways, as people always point out: people with good marriages and/or good family relationships don't post about their problems on anonymous online message boards. No one's going to come here and post, "I freaking love my extended family, it's SO cool to watch my parents interacting with my kids, it melts my heart how my daughter asks to FaceTime grandpa all the time, etcetc" because...what's the point of that. No one cares. I can actually tell you that in practice, the majority of my friends have extremely close relationships with their parents and grown siblings. My kids see my parents all the time, and it is truly cherished on both ends. Not rare at all. We spend a lot of time with family, and ditto to the majority of my friends who live in this are (we all grew up here)[/quote]

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