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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is a sickening thread. I hope these horrible posts are from Trump trolls, not DCUM parents. The lack of compassion of these posters is horrifying. They must be those trolls who post from outside DC. They are why Jeff stopped putting politics on recent topics. It is nauseating to read the shit these people post. This used to be a civil forum. I think Jeff should just delete the entire forum and let DCUM be just about parenting and other tlrelated topics. [/quote]

Seriously, don’t engage. If those that think like them are the majority, we have already lost. Work on getting people that share your sense of outrage on this shameful chapter to vote in November and again in 2020. Find charities and groups you can support to help those in need now. Leave the politics forum alone - I hope it’s not represented Of American sentiments in general. But we won’t know until after the election. [/quote]

Or else work on explaining why the U.S. shouldn't have borders.  Explain the logic behind a country that cannot and should not enforce its own borders.

Because otherwise it sort of looks like poor people trying to exploit porous borders.

This is understandable but hardly makes for good national policy.[/quote]

So I am not taking my own advice not to engage. But here goes...

I am actually not against an immigration policy that makes sense and that deports illegal aliens that commit crimes etc. I object strenuously to degrading our own sense of morality by treating people as “others” or “criminals” for no good reason. I think it diminishes us and our ideals. Have laws, yes. Enforce laws, yes. But be compassionate and treat people as human beings.  Don’t break faith with DACA recipients. Crack down on businesses and employees that break labor laws. And under no circumstance, separate a child from their parent for at worst a misdemeanor charge and often time with no charge (you are allowed to ask for asylum - that doesn’t make you a criminal).  Again, the true horror is who we are becoming when we act so contrary to the ideals emblazoned on Lady Liberty. [/quote]

Unfortunately, DACA was an Obama era executive action.  It's not legislation.  If you want to see legislation that benefits DACA recipients, you should start by lobbying legislators to pass legislation to  that effect.  Presidential fiats can be done and undone "at the stroke of a pen."  It's irresponsible for a nation of law to behave otherwise.  Obama acted like an Emperor when creating DACA and Trump is acting like an Emperor when erasing that legacy.

Advocate for laws.[/quote]

Wow.  Such a shallow understanding of both immigration law and executive authority on display in this post.  Prosecutorial discretion is not ruling by “Executive fiat”.  USCIS and ICE have to make decisions about who to pursue and who to prosecute.  They can’t do it all.   They have to prioritize resources.  When the president simply tells them what the priorities should be.  Obama did it,  Trump did it.  All presidents do it.   Congress ceded much of its constructional authority to regulate who comes into the country to the president through amendments to the INA.  That combined with the president’s constitutional authority and supra-constitutional soverign authority gives the president almost exclusive authority over who comes into the country.  Congresss on the other hand has undisputed constitutional authority to decide who becomes citizens.  Thus DACA has to be done with the continuing cooperation of both the president and Congress. It’s not an area where Congress can just pass a law and make it happen. [/quote]

Sure they can.  They just don't want to.[/quote]

Nope.  That’s not how immigration law works. See above. [/quote]

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