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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have multiple friends and a sister who are in your position. Their adult children have rejected the idea of becoming parents and seem to be perpetual children themselves, constantly moving, changing jobs and asking for financial help from their parents. I think this partially comes from the disrespect for the roles of traditional mothers, who are constantly dissed on this site and others. Being a SAHM puts women on the defensive yet working moms are often stretched beyond their limits.[/quote]

Please stop perpetuating the idea that people who don’t have children are children themselves. You don’t even know if that’s the life they chose or what’s going on. Adults of childbearing age today had a lot of economic obstacles their parents never had to deal with, so you don’t know why they keep moving for jobs or asking for help. It seems like a wise and very adult, if difficult, decision to not bring children into that situation. I know that can be difficult for some of you boomers to understand, but maybe not everyone is making unlimited choices with supportive circumstances. If [b]you wanted your children to have children, maybe you should have done more to make sure we had a world conducive to that. Or were you busy raising your kids? [/b]Maybe childless people aren’t useless. [/quote]

NP here. What would be more difficult for this generation than for boomers? Absolutely cannot figure that one out.

We were the first women who were fully expected to enter the job force  in the 70s and 80s, whether we wanted to or not, with zero maternity leave much less pay, substandard childcare, and misogynist bosses...yep..even some female bosses. We had that glass ceiling. We are still punching thtough that, and niw we are dealung with ageism.

We were expected to have it all and do it all. Little help with anything...we did the housework and the meals. We were told our birthing labor would be "uncomfortable" but that we could breathe through it. We raised you little buggers making sure you had everything, told you that you could be anything. There were no cruises, trips to Europe, and a lot of luxuries that millennials think are standard  today. Our first home was a rented apt. We lived through 3 recessions...I waited in a line to fill my car for 4 hours in 1979, and had to leave my car there as there was no gas...for a week. No computers, no internet..we researched our dissertations in the library with whatever available microfiche documents or journals there were and typed those damn things  on a typewriter with the citations placed at the bottom while feeding you. We went to your games, your plays, your  parties. 
We were called "honey" work and worried about our jobs if we took off.
 We were BADASS. You got nothing on us...nothing.

Don't you dare tell us what kind of world we left for you....you have it so much better. Your worst enemies are your peers...competition, judging, one upmanship. It is tough to watch. We helped each other...babysitting clubs, play groups, etc. These women are still my friends.
And yes, I would still have kids.Best thing ever- and not afraid to admit that it was ok to be a Mom as if it would say something about my intellect.

If you don't want kids, fine, but place your blame elsewhere....and, yes, you are missing out. [/quote]

NP but wow you sound nuts and jumped to some crazy conclusions. Also, do you think you solved the problems of sexism and no one is called honey anymore? Are you living under a rock? None of that stopped, even if it’s not directed at you anymore. [/quote]

Not under a rock...still very much  in the game. There are far more protections now than ever. There is maternity leave and paternity leave, there is even maternity pay in some places. There are domestic partnership laws, and there are laws against discrimination and harrassment. You can also be gay in the workplace- that was surely not happening. You can be a gay parent, too...THAT wasn't happening.There are pumping rooms for breastfeeders, there is FEMLA,flexible work schedules, telework,  and there are better and  daycare and options. The idea of parenting is not relegated only to women...men get it now because they were raised by us. Interest rates for a house are below 5%. I paid 16%. Yes, you read that right. You can afford a house, but if you are striving for the huge 4 to 5000 square ft residence, you just won't be able to do it. If you want to live in the city where you will be perceived better some how...you probably won't be able to do it...(or park anywhere, for that matter).

Stop whining about your sad life- you don't know how good you have it. No, some things are not all over, but the entire cultural landscape has really evolved and your age group benefits from what we pushed for. Why not continue the progress instead of dropping out of parenthood for all those ridiculous reasons that you listed. Unless you just don't want kids, which might be the case, your generational blame for that is lacking. Also, as you have zero frame of reference for this, don't call people nuts for what you might not understand. THAT is nuts. Develop empathy. Focus out, not in. Grow up. [/quote]

Why do you continue to jump to crazy conclusions about who you’re speaking to and what you’re talking about? You’ve got some pent up anger issues. [/quote]

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