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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was searching for days on this topic in the dcum forum. Was wondering what took so long to start one. I can't believe those kids were not removed after the one mom plead guilty to child abuse. It would not surprise me if these moms had mental health issues and were on antipsychotics. [/quote] I think this one creates dissonance for this board. This was a left leaning family, lesbians, mixed race, adoptive parents. Doesn't fit the narrative of who many people want to see as child abusers.[/quote] I used this incident over the weekend as a teaching moment for my son to show him how the same news story can be told from many different perspectives based on the biases of the sources. We also discussed how the 5 stages of grief weigh into accounts and reportings. Those who knew them are likely in stages of anger and denial. I am fairly convinced that this is not a pretty picture and that it will continue to get uglier as more facts come out, despite efforts at spin control. As we learned from Watergate, it is rarely about the crime and more often about the coverup. This family was presented as a "poster-unit" from the left, and all of that is likely to come back in ways that they can't control. We also discussed how "box checking" affected the reporting. How would the reporting of this story differ if the political and sexual orientation of the parents was different, ditto the racial makeup of the family unit? A lot of the info will come out in the form of "I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin." Were signs missed simply because it is no longer politically correct to see signs? A comment from one source even blamed it all on "the nosy hompophobic neighbors and none of this would have happened if they hadn't interfered." I guess to some that a kid breaking into your house at 130AM and hiding constitutes "nosy" Sheeeeeesh! I feel badly for those neighbors who I now suspect must be wondering if the outcome had been different had they called CPS sooner. But at the same time, I'm from Portland. I know how Portland is, and I also would have to be thinking about the blowback when it was revealed that I had reported the lesbians next door. I will not be surprised if they are painted as the villains. :( So we must wonder if the system itself has created an atmosphere of non-reporting. I no longer have mandatory reporter status since I retired, and around here that is a relief. It will be interesting to see if any of the people who claim to be close to the family change their stories over time. Denial of a problem is a powerful defensive force. For these reasons, police have been slow to release information. Recently it was announced that the speedometer was pegged at 90, indicating that the accelerator was all the way down, and wheels free of a load will allow the engine and transmission to quickly max out in the 3 seconds of fall between the bluff and impact. They also revealed no contact between the vehicle and cliff face on the way down, so it was essentially airborne. I really do not see any way this cannot be ruled as felony suicide / murder in the end. We used to have a summer house near Anchor Bay so I am very familiar with that highway. Yeah, it is super dangerous if you don't pay attention. But this incident did not happen in one of those spots, even though some news stories imply that was the case by omitting selective facts.[/quote]
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