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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^^ if it’s so great why don’t the A and B team do it instead of just the C-G teams?[/quote]

This thread is just more of the crazy soccer parents. Oh my kid did not make the top team...I am so bitter...it must be the coaching, the club screwed him or her over, the top teams train differently, etc, etc. Soccer is a sport. There is a huge difference between the top team and the lower team. There is a large difference in level of play even between the A and B teams. I do not understand why you can not see this. It really shows a lack of understanding soccer and sports in general to think it’s just coaching that is keeping a kid from developing or that kids at different levels of developmental should train the same way. If the lower team lacks the skill(touch, ball control, etc) you should work on that and not on teaching a possession game. Why? Because you have to have a minimum skill level to move the next training level. This happens in all sport. [/quote]

There is almost no difference between the top 20 or so kids at a large travel club.  Some of the kids may be a bit smaller and put on the second team.  When you have 150-200 kids come out the talent runs pretty deep.  In fact, the first 3 teams could beat each other on any given day.

The problem is that they label and mark 7/8 years old as worthy to train or not.  NOBODY can predict how a soccer player will develop over the next 10-12 years.  Yet-  Americans toss out the kids to heap pile beginning at U8/9, never to be looked at again if they aren't pulled out to be in the top 10.  The other factor is that in the younger years with such large tryouts it is near impossible to get selections/rankings correct.  Since the age groups aren't treated as one large training/academy group, this is detrimental.  They take a tiny percentage of players off to their corner and only concentrate on them.  We then have this stupid 'team-centric' concept.

They get working early on it.  Trying to get their kid out to tryouts at younger and younger ages.  Trying to get their kid 'scene' as much as possible.  If they can start their kid in the system sooner, the greater the chance their kid has over their classmates.  This is why kindergartners are trying out.  It's always because 'rec isn't good enough'.  They are the same way with school---put the kids in private lessons/kumon/khan academy---and then say 'kindergarten is too boring my Susie is far advanced above everyone else.  This also evens out before middle school when genetics takes over.

I think what is hit on about ASA is correct.  There is a huge sense of arrogance and entitlement coupled with a lot of nerd parents that never played the sport (or any sport) at a high level (beyond HS) themselves.  So--they are living vicariously through their kid and 'what team your kid is on" is a very big parental social factor that they derive a tremendous amount of self-satisfaction from.  They will try to drop or steer the conversation to it at any social outing.  The less blatant ones will--talk about "Jeff cup" or "Bethesda cup", etc. just so you know where you stack up.

I would avoid this place like the plague.  The behind the scenes culture is nauseating and the kids turn into little douchebags as they mirror their parents' comments to teammates.  There is no 'team'.  A bunch of nasty individuals.

The best ASA coaches we've had do not stay long.[/quote]

It's about time ASA gets its own discussion section on this forum. There have been years of bashing Vienna and others while ASA escaped. [/quote]

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