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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I attended one of the info sessions beforehand and was told that kids who need to be prepped to get the scores aren't the kids who need the program in the first place.[/quote]

Someone may have already said this. The problem is that the kid does not get only a numerical score, but also a percentile ranking. So let's say that your kid would score 135 on the NNAT, and be on 98th percentile without prepping (and probably be in the pool). Then 10 other kids, who would score 131 without prepping at 95th percentile, actually prep, scores 136, and are now on the 99th percentile. These kids, will not change your kids score, because 135 does not change, but the 98th percentile may become 96th or 97th percentile. And there, just because some of the other kids prep, your kid does not make the pool, and is not shining anymore.

The percentiles are rankings of scores from the highest to the lowest, and then you see what percentage of kids falls below a certain score. Than that score is associated to that percentile. So, if 99% of the kids taking the test score below your kid, then your kid scored on the 99th percentile, and is screened for the program. If other kids prep, and their score becomes even equal to your kid's score, then that 99% becomes a lower one, lets say 95, 96, 97%, etc. The percentile is not what percent the kid got right, but it is the kid's score ranking with respect to other kids' scores taking the same test. [/quote]

National percentiles won't change, but otherwise, you're correct.  The in-pool cutoff is selected to capture the top 10% of FCPS students.  Thanks to prepping, it's not necessarily capturing the correct top 10% of students.  Keep in mind that the in-pool cutoff has been steadily increasing.  In the past, 130 on any one subtest was enough to fall in the top 10% of students.  FCPS kids aren't getting that much smarter in that short of a time.  [/quote]

If enough kids prep the national rankings will get affected. The fact that the cutoff in FX Co. has been increasing from year to year, means that at least for the NNAT the national rankings have been impacted. The CogAT form the kids in FX Co. schools take is FX Co. specific, but that also is measured against national scores, and if that cutoff has been increasing that means that the national averages have had an impact.

[b]From what I know there are unlimited seats in the AAP program, as long as the child is a good fit for the program. (I am not sure that I believe that, but that's what the county claims.)[[/b]/quote]

I don't know how it can be true.  I know many families who got rejected a spot even with high test scores and gbrs and eventually got in after trying another year or two but not their first try.  Also the fact that overall about 50% of the pool or appeal is accepted confirms.[/quote]

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