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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How do these women continue to coerce these men into giving them the sperm to make these babies?  It baffles me.  [/quote]

While I believe you are being facetious, I'd say its a matter of trust and some people are not worthy of that trust.

There is also the legal system that has evolved to protect a woman's right to reproductive freedom while not giving a male the same protections. It's a woman's legal right to terminate a pregnancy (which agree with 100%) however it is also a urologists right to deny an 18 year old male a vesicostomy for whatever reason. Even a urologist affiliated with Planned Parenthood, who are the bastion of reproductive freedom, thought nothing of asking what my parents though about grand kids from me when I  tried to get snipped at 19 and telling me to come back in a year to make certain I was sure, this was my second visit as I was 18 when I tried to get snipped the first time. I got similar answers at 21 and 24 from different doctors. What sort of moral outrage would there be if a woman was told to come back in a year if she still wanted birth control or to terminate a pregnancy.

Telling a woman you don't want to have children, even documenting it in writing is no matter in the eyes of the law if she decides otherwise. If a woman wants to have recreational sex and something happens she has options, however a male is not afforded the same rights if she chooses to ignore his wishes and even has the power of the courts to protect her rights and enforce/support her choices while the only choice a male has is to abstain from all sexual activity as that is the only 100% form of birth control for him, excepting the big V which I covered above and even that has been proven to not be 100% in some cases. 
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Doctors discuss fertility to women all the time.

I needed a medical procedure and was of baby bearing age but wanted no more children. The doctor did not recommend the procedure because I would not be able to carry children. But I don't want children. It did not matter. It is up to doctors to discuss these things with a patient.

Why is that a problem? You couldn't discuss the pros and cons? Maybe you were not old enough to make that decision.
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At 18 I was legally able to sign on a dotted line and get shipped out to someplace sandy to kill or die for my country, I would be held responsible as an adult for any crimes I committed, I was able to vote, and sign legal contracts such as marriage. I think I was able to make the decision about how I wanted my body to be. A doctor has a responsibility to inform their patient so they can have informed consent but after that it's not the doctors choice about what I do with my body, the doctor performed his due diligence to inform me of the pro's and con's which was actually unnecessary as I could have told him almost all of them as well as the financial implications however that was not enough to convince him, or the doctors after him. Instead I was forced to rely on another person to share my views who could change her mind at anytime with absolutely no legal repercussions, she doesn't even have a legal obligation to tell me she's changed her mind and was actively attempting to become pregnant and that choice and the consequences of it are protect by law. As a male I can not force another human being to become a parent (legally anyway) but I do not have the same legal protection as stated by the  the U.S. Court of Appeals  "the Fourteenth Amendment does not deny to [the] State the power to treat different classes of persons in different ways."

This is getting way outside the bounds of this thread but I do thank you for an opportunity to express my views and I apologize for the thread jacking.
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