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We pay $14,000 per kid to educate their offspring. That's a lot more than they pay in taxes. It's a net gain for them, and a net loss to real Americans.[/quote]

I am a US-born US citizen with two US-born, US-citizen kids in public schools.. I certainly don't pay $28,000 a year in taxes. Should I take one of the kids out of school, since I'm not paying their way?[/quote]
Of course not. What type of crazy liberal thinking is that? You and your kids are AMERICAN. Illegal immigrants aren't entitled to the same services as Americans (although in the case of education, they do get that for free.) Besides, the argument wasn't about whether to educate these illegals - it's about whether ilegal immigrants are a net positive for the economy, and of course they are not.

FWIW, I have no kids in school and pay taxes to educate yours (rightly so) as well as those who came here illegally. But let's not pretend that we are gaining by having millions of illegals in this country....it is a net expense. It's coming at a particularly big expense to elderly Americans, too, who have dutifully paid taxes for decades and have seen the equity in their homes evaporate when the illegals move in to the imoacted neighborhoods. [/quote]

Sorry, there's plenty of research showing undocumented immigrants are a net positive on the economy. Plus as others have pointed out, conditioning voting rights on an individual's net positive contribution is extremely problematic in a democracy. [/quote]
First, those two issues have become conflated in this thread. I never said voting should be contingent on being a net positive. It should be contingent on being a legal citizen.

But the fact is that ILLEGAL ALIENS (you call them undocumented, the latest PC term for lawbreakers) are not net positive. You keep mentioning plenty of research without linking to anything. What about the damage they've caused to elderly people, who had their nest egg in their house? Illegals moved into the neighborhood, lowered the quality of the schools, and destroyed the property values. Why do liberals have more sympathy for people who break our laws than law-abiding elderly people who have paid taxes for 40 years, and now have seen tneir nest egg cut in half? Half the people in my parents' neighborhood are original owners from the 70s, and the other half are uneducated newcomers, half of whom don't even speak English? They are renting three families to a house! Why is that such a net positive? 
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