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We pay $14,000 per kid to educate their offspring. That's a lot more than they pay in taxes. It's a net gain for them, and a net loss to real Americans.[/quote]

I am a US-born US citizen with two US-born, US-citizen kids in public schools.. I certainly don't pay $28,000 a year in taxes. Should I take one of the kids out of school, since I'm not paying their way?[/quote]
Of course not. What type of crazy liberal thinking is that? You and your kids are AMERICAN. Illegal immigrants aren't entitled to the same services as Americans (although in the case of education, they do get that for free.) Besides, the argument wasn't about whether to educate these illegals - it's about whether ilegal immigrants are a net positive for the economy, and of course they are not.

FWIW, I have no kids in school and pay taxes to educate yours (rightly so) as well as those who came here illegally. But let's not pretend that we are gaining by having millions of illegals in this country....it is a net expense. It's coming at a particularly big expense to elderly Americans, too, who have dutifully paid taxes for decades and have seen the equity in their homes evaporate when the illegals move in to the imoacted neighborhoods. [/quote]

You're wanting to have it both ways. If this is an argument about taxes, then the fact is that your taxes pay for my kids' education. If it's not an argument about taxes, then why do you bring up taxes?

As for whether unauthorized immigrants are a net expense or a net benefit to the US economy -- most economists agree that they are a net benefit to the US economy. But of course you are entitled to your own opinion.[/quote]

NP. It really shouldn't matter if they are a net benefit or not. (Seriously, how many "true blood Americans" are a drain to the society? I don't even want to know.) It also really shouldn't matter if they pay taxes or not - again, how many Americans don't pay taxes? And how many use more benefits than what they've paid in? That's how the system is structured... A lot of people pay in for benefits that they don't use.

BUT the point is - these people are illegal. For whatever reason - overstayed on their visa or snuck across the border - they are not living here through legal means. There should be SOME consequence to them not following the rules. This isn't a discussion of the difficulties of the process and no one is even saying that they should all be deported or arrested or whatever. They are allowed to use the schools and the hospitals, etc because we are not cruel, heartless human beings. But at the very least, a minor consequence could very well be that they are not allowed to vote. [/quote]

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