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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A 3.7 from my HS was an A- average. Is that what we're talking about? If so, I was unhooked, but with a perfect 2400 SAT, and got into one of HYP early with that GPA (which put me at just below the top 1/3rd of my class, for context). I had other good things on my resume, obviously, but nothing that would remotely qualify as a "hook." (White female with lawyer parents from NYC.)[/quote]

A 3.7, perfect Sats, no hooks won't get you into HYP today. You'd be very lucky to get into one top 10, and two or three more in the 10-25 range. [/quote]

I just graduated. I realize it gets harder every year, but the process has not changed entirely in 5 years. I thought I wouldn't get into HYP to be honest, but my guidance counselor approved my list of H/Y/P, H/Y/P, Brown, MIT, UChicago and Michigan without concern (we're only allowed to apply to 5 privates), so clearly didn't share your doom and gloom philosophy. I came from a very competitive HS that sends about 15-20 to HYPS every year, FWIW.[/quote]

5 years ago.  I'm guessing female STEM applicant, as MIT is listed,  which would have made a difference in that year.  Especially for H and Y as they were building up those programs (still are to a large degree).
Probably still does but to a lesser degree.[/quote]

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